bill birnes.....

i am a believer of alien life and ufos though ive never seen one, but i think bill birnes is the biggest idiot in the ufo field. he believes everything hes told and will try to bend info to meet his believes. in the ufo hnter show on dulce he rgued with pat about the dulce base and told pat he saw the actual pics of the base with his own eyes. come to find out all he saw were someones drawings of the base, lol, hes an idiot. he sets ufo investigations back 100 years any non-believer can just point to this buttmunch as to how stories get passed around as real when they are just 2nd hand info. he makes me crazy! i love shows on ufos and the like but i cant take him anymore. the 2nd biggest ass in the ufo world is that crazy mexican hiemi something (spelled wrong). those two should be locked in a room to just run their mouth with non stop crap until they die.

what do the rest of you gus think of these two idiots?

on last thing i think kevin and pat are great and great investigators and i wish kevin would just get it over and strangle bill once and for all!

I hope you managed to get all your hate out with that post. I can assure you that UFO investigations have not been set back 100 years, that is just silly -- it is a TV SHOW. If you want in-depth Ufology you shouldn't look for it on TV, they have to fit an entire investigation into a time slot -- read a book instead.

I like Bill....

Argus, you should find a more creative way to deal with your anger issues. There's no place for disrespect and name calling in a public forum. Your anger is not impressing anyone and you can tell it's eating away at you. Bill is a fine gentleman with a wealth of knowledge on UFOs. Do I disagree with him at times? Sure, But that doesn't make him an Idiot. Your actions however lead us to believe that you have some deeper issues going on that you might want to consider coming to terms with. You're probably a nice person, I don't know, but your coming across as deeply troubled.

LOL, Saw Bill on UFO Files "USO" episode. First time I've ever seen him without the shades and was surprised at what a handsome guy he is. lol.... (no there's no gay thiing going on here, Move along)

Bill is a God!

...but I'm just saying that to be obnoxious. Both criticisms are equally facile, entirely presumptive, operate on false premises, and are over the top irrelevant, unbalanced, and less than comprehensive... in no way constructive ...just to start! Something shouted from beneath a bridge in the old country, eh?

Maybe Bill is a god, even if only comparative.

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The bats have always done a great job.

ok you guys can say what you want about me and call me all kinds of names, you know what they say about arguing with someone over the internet dont you?

bill is a fine man who puts out good magazine, that i do mean to subscrbe to someday, heh, but as an investigator he is too much a fan. meaning he sees aliens in everything and seems to believe every story that hes told, at leats thats what i get from watchng hs show (and trust me ive seen them all multiple times). in my humble opinion you have to go into these things with total openness and not just take everything as 100% truth. imo, i beleive 95% of all sightings are either hoaxes or misidentification or mistakes. but omg with 5% of all the sightings are either aliens or our military advancements.

maybe i came off too strong as i had just watched the ufo hunters on dulce and when bill said to pat that dulce was real because he had seen the actual pics and pat said were they pics or soomeones drawings, it didnt seem to matter to him that they were just someones drawings. i mean he is full of child like wonder but i would just like to get some hard proof of alien visitations and not just someones drawings.

my dad and i are members of a local ufo chapter and attend it monthly and these things are discussed all the time. and once a year we attend a skywatch but unfortunately we have seen nothing in 5 years, though there was a big sighting at this site in the 50's by bruce stevenson, documented with mufon i believe.

anyway, im not saying bill is a bad man, a dishonest man or anything like that, bill is a fine man. but as an investigator ild like to see more objectivity shown.

fheargus, I am not sure why I am replying to your post. I believe you painted a very good portrait of yourself in your first post. Nowhere in your last post was there any remorse for the feelings of the man that you hurt. Not once did I see the words " I am Sorry"
Do some research on him. Put yourself in his shoes and read what you wrote. Don't try to soften the blow after it has been struck.

PLEASE DON'T FEED THE TROLLS.

Investigators of the UFO phenomena should have a open minded approach. As well as using reason and science when investigating. Maybe he's to open minded sometimes, which can open you up to getting burned. But some UFO claims are strange. If you read Science Fiction; it 's not any stranger! The saying "the truth is stranger than fiction applies."

Yeah, I thought the same thing seeing Bill without his cap, sunglasses and leather jacket - wait, this can't be Bill, he's in a suit. One smart guy, glad he's on our side (i.e., getting out the truth) -

In this field you should always remain skeptical until someone clicks and has something tangilble. Bill I love ya man just dont go bringing up anything about Roswell,Area51, or any other secure instalation. Itll earn you a bunch of grief, that isnt where the story is. The 15 percent we cant explain are the story. I dont give credence to people who have 55 hours of UFO sightings in their back yard. Interaction with a extraterrestrial being could present microbes and germs that maybe humans couldnt tolerate. That could work both ways. Weve had eons to ad in air water adapt to microbes present in soil water and air. The same for alien life. You see faked flicks of alien atopsies with no gloves , no biological tent, they would be examined in a controled air box.
Bill Area51 doesnt have UFOs, underground massive tunnels or any other Bob Lazzar fantasys. It does have secret aircraft our most secret sensitive studies on aircraft. All these people trying to get into area 51 to catch a glimsp of something its pathectic. If you did that in Russia or North Kores you would go missing.
The government dont have UFOs or you see them in the air alot. They would be involved in military ops and the psycological advantage would be presented. They couldnt hide from all ,the looky loos. Area51 our most secret base had more cameras watching it than all of London. Our enemys watch Al Jezera at home on their sofas and all they need to know on its secrets. They dont even have to come here to spythey just watch the show.
Bob Lazzar is a criminal that violated his non-disclosure statment on his clearance. He was a sub contractor with no time on base 41/2 months theres a reason for that. High pay with benefits most people working there work their whole life there.
ROSWELL: A mylar cover up that works to this day.

I've just one critisium of the shows. Please hire a colorist... The artsy high gain yellow-green color
is awful. In the photofinishing field it's called heat-fog, to the color film, which required a large amount of color correction to produce an accesptable print. It's also known as Degassed film. 85% of all males are color blind, I'm not. Other than that I love your shows, keep up the great work. One other thing, in the episode where you were in Roswell, comparing different crash materials shown to a Roswell eyewitness. In one of the shots of the base you could see jets flying past in the background. Those jets were either British or German Tornado F-1s. I just wondered what they were doing in American airspace at the time. Odd!!!

I like Bill too! For two good reasons, to my mind( I haven't lost it yet!).One is he has brought into the open a subject that has cost others dearly for what they "Know". Secondly his a shipmate...
Bill T/Saberjet
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