Whole Thing Solved

So, they say on these shows that with enough thrust you can fly a brick.

Then they skip right over the fact that we've had enough thrust since they first split the atom.

There are nuclear submarines. Why not nuclear aircraft? Duh. In fact they could be the same thing and maybe that thing my Grandpa saw in the Arizona desert way back when that "looked like a cigar", was a submarine in the early days of testing this stuff.

And that's why they're so paranoid about anyone finding out about it. Everyone would freak out if they knew there were nuclear reactors flying around above their neighborhoods.
Duh. Duh. and uh.... double Duh. Seems like these UFO show guys are part of the coverup, going on about nutty stuff when the truth is so obvious.

The government is flying nuclear powered aircraft. Why wouldn't they?

*darts eyes quickly in all directions as to follow motion that defies laws of physics*

Uhh huh, that may be, but how do you account for a sudden right turn at incredible high speeds?

How does having a nuclear core bend or repel gravity in order to create this type of motion?

With a submarine the physics of motion are easy, flying through the air at mock yada yada is a whole other story.

The main problem with flying nuclear powered aircraft is the danger posed if they crash. Yes, they did look into the possibility of nuclear powered aircraft, but realized the public (which has always been wary of things nuclear) would probably be very vocal against the idea.

I think we have tried it, and the incident in TX where the woman was burned with radiation is indicative of this.

However, just because we try to replicate or even reverse engineer doesn't mean that there are not extra terrestrial UFOs with much more advanced technology and understanding.

Based on the TX case I think we have botched it very badly.

Call in the Night Stalkers.


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Fox Mulder wrote:

I think we have tried it, and the incident in TX where the woman was burned with radiation is indicative of this.

However, just because we try to replicate or even reverse engineer doesn't mean that there are not extra terrestrial UFOs with much more advanced technology and understanding.

Based on the TX case I think we have botched it very badly.

Call in the Night Stalkers.


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I had forgotten about that incident. It is a shame as the three people developed many health problems afterward and the government has denied any responsibility. Just imagine one of those craft crashing in a city.

That was the Cash-Landrum case and sadly Betty Cash died from cancer that was likely the result of the radiation. It is one of those cases that prove to me that the media just has no interest in UFOs because there was lots of physical evidence (the car especially) and doctor reports of radiation burns. UFO or not, the media should have tried to get to the bottom of it, the radiation burns alone are a story. To my knowledge, nobody in the MSM did any investigation of the incident.

You are correct about the media ignoring this tragic case and not demanding accounting from the military or the government. I am one to believe the Cash-Landrum case is a classified military project.

No matter what it was, there was enough evidence and stalling by the government to find answers to the parties involved.

In the April/May issue of Air & Space Magazine. They ran a cover story about "Project Pluto: How America almost built a nightmare missle" by Gregg Herken. Project Pluto was a ram jet powered by a nuclear reactor. It was launched by a booster rocket. Then the nuclear reactors ram jet would take over. The air was ramed through a opening, past the nuclear reactor. Heating the air, then forcing the air out the nozzle. It was imagined to carry nuclear weapons to our enemies. But, the reactor would keep working! So it would have to be parked over your enemy; spewing out radiation endlessly. The big isue here is you couldn't turn it off!

The point of my citation is nuclear radation requires shielding to be safely used. There are no nuclear reactors small enough to safely use on aircraft, for that reason. If someone ever comes up with away to shield a small light nuclear reactor, then we can worry.
Project Pluto

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but how do you account for a sudden right turn at incredible high speeds?

There doesn't have to be any accounting for what you claim if it's simply an optical illusion and there are no inertia defying maneuvers. Where is your evidence that any right angle anything actually happened? Our military is really good at deception and illusion too, btw, if you hadn't noticed.

Most sightings are just crazy people and for most people , that's a given. The few that aren't seem to be government projects so secret that even their own departments aren't aware of them. From simply paying attention in history class we learn that this sort of secrecy is commonplace in governments through the ages, and for secret societies (on which our government was founded her in the US), and has been going on for about as long as this UFO nonsense.

Also, apparently, the CIA has been experimenting with mind control for most of this past century. I can't imagine why they'd stop for the reasons they claim or have produced no results.

But, nobody can take these sightings as anything but entertainment. If these UFO Hunters were real, they'd be out there having documented sightings instead of interviewing wingnuts...

...Unless maybe they were trying to track down this government mind control program and figure out why they're cutting up cows and making native Americans see aliens and think there are lizard people living under their pueblo.

But, they came out here (NM) and they let those crazy natives walk all over them unfortunately. If they'd spent any time here they'd have learned that everyone around here that isn't nuts knows those people are nuts.

The most obvious answer to all this is that it's the military. It used to be the soviet military too which made it really weird. But, now it's just us and that's why it's more boring these days and there are less sightings and less interest in the whole thing.

Bummer, huh? I know. I wanted to believe too

I'm still open to the idea that I'm wrong and I hope I am, really.

But, I'd sure like to see somebody compare a chart of government funding to rate of occurrance of ufo sightings, by area, by year. I doubt they'd make the money that easy to trace though. Would you?

There are a lot of excellent unsolved cases out there that definitely would fit the ETH. True, there are a lot of kooks out there and people who are in it to make a dollar, but many are true dedicated researchers.

Kevin Randle is one who you may want to look up in the library and read his UFO books. He looks at this subject from a very different view and is not afraid to tell it like he sees it.

aclarado wrote:

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but how do you account for a sudden right turn at incredible high speeds?

There doesn't have to be any accounting for what you claim if it's simply an optical illusion and there are no inertia defying maneuvers. Where is your evidence that any right angle anything actually happened? Our military is really good at deception and illusion too, btw, if you hadn't noticed.

Most sightings are just crazy people and for most people , that's a given. The few that aren't seem to be government projects so secret that even their own departments aren't aware of them. From simply paying attention in history class we learn that this sort of secrecy is commonplace in governments through the ages, and for secret societies (on which our government was founded her in the US), and has been going on for about as long as this UFO nonsense.

Also, apparently, the CIA has been experimenting with mind control for most of this past century. I can't imagine why they'd stop for the reasons they claim or have produced no results.

But, nobody can take these sightings as anything but entertainment. If these UFO Hunters were real, they'd be out there having documented sightings instead of interviewing wingnuts...

...Unless maybe they were trying to track down this government mind control program and figure out why they're cutting up cows and making native Americans see aliens and think there are lizard people living under their pueblo.

But, they came out here (NM) and they let those crazy natives walk all over them unfortunately. If they'd spent any time here they'd have learned that everyone around here that isn't nuts knows those people are nuts.

The most obvious answer to all this is that it's the military. It used to be the soviet military too which made it really weird. But, now it's just us and that's why it's more boring these days and there are less sightings and less interest in the whole thing.

Bummer, huh? I know. I wanted to believe too

I'm still open to the idea that I'm wrong and I hope I am, really.

But, I'd sure like to see somebody compare a chart of government funding to rate of occurrance of ufo sightings, by area, by year. I doubt they'd make the money that easy to trace though. Would you?

There is a good chance that the military is creating some of these sightings and there may well a military application for creating illusions in the sky, however I do doubt that this could explain Petra glyphs depicting saucer shaped objects with what seems to be landing gear and human like beings with helmets etched onto rocks and walls of caves and date back 2-3,000 years. Other examples would be the “Palenque Astronaut” etching showing what appears to be just that; an astronaut in a complex craft. There are small gold trinkets shaped like airplanes etc. There are many questions regarding ancient structures and who could have constructed these, when by all accounts the peoples in those areas such as Puma Pumko, were without any written language or mathematics. Then, we start getting into pre- Wright brother sightings such as Aurora Texas April 17, 1897 and there are many more. So I conclude that you can not explain it all with the military, nor did it just begin with modern day aviation and technology. Solved? I think not.....

Neutron wrote:

In the April/May issue of Air & Space Magazine. They ran a cover story about "Project Pluto: How America almost built a nightmare missle" by Gregg Herken. Project Pluto was a ram jet powered by a nuclear reactor. It was launched by a booster rocket. Then the nuclear reactors ram jet would take over. The air was ramed through a opening, past the nuclear reactor. Heating the air, then forcing the air out the nozzle. It was imagined to carry nuclear weapons to our enemies. But, the reactor would keep working! So it would have to be parked over your enemy; spewing out radiation endlessly. The big isue here is you couldn't turn it off!

The point of my citation is nuclear radation requires shielding to be safely used. There are no nuclear reactors small enough to safely use on aircraft, for that reason. If someone ever comes up with away to shield a small light nuclear reactor, then we can worry.
Project Pluto

You ever see a SNAP-6? Its small enough to be carried in the back of the old military (Ford) Jeeps (pre-Hummers). My brother had one on his jeep, it was used to power a portable long-range VHF radio comm unit for operation in the frozen back woods of Europe, where batteries don't work well and the noise of generator, is well, too noisy for the activity.

Your point about NR being socially nast is well taken, and I agree, Humans need ban those gadgets, everything about them is nasty. Our continued usage of these apparatus is irresponsible.

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