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PostSubject: Harm   Mon May 30, 2011 6:37 pm

Harm is a relative term. Have they murdered hundreds ?, Not as far as we know, but some have died as a result of contact:
People haver gotten radiation sickness and died, pilots have chased them and died, if the Russians are telling the truth; they tried to shoot them down and a few pilots of theirs were killed. The idea and practice of abduction sounds like it is terrifying in the least, so I don't know if some of them want to harm us or not.
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PostSubject: Re: The Greys - Pfft ...   Mon May 30, 2011 7:04 pm

jackgbowman wrote:

People haver gotten radiation sickness and died,

Got files?



pilots have chased them and died,

Dumb move ...



if the Russians are telling the truth; they tried to shoot them down and a few pilots of theirs were killed.

Dumber move.



The idea and practice of abduction sounds like it is terrifying in the least, so I don't know if some of them want to harm us or not.

Like I have said, it has never happened to me (or anyone I have ever known for that matter) - weird a couple of times, yes, scary / harm - no. As far as I am concerned, abductions are a delusional crock, unless empirical evidence shows otherwise. And empirical evidence does not mean telling me "I had a scary dream" or the cut I got (somehow) was from them.

History does not show ET attacking - interpretations have shown abuse, Sumer / Sitchen, and he was proven wrong by a scholar who took his interpretations on.

They are here for the same reason they have always come, and the stupidity factor regarding people and their groundless interpretations will be their undoing.




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PostSubject: Re: The Greys - Pfft ...   Mon May 30, 2011 11:48 pm

The stuff
that I read like, Capt. Martel, Chasing a U.F.O, in a P-51, then the plane augerd in verticaly. Could have been the result of a faulty Oxygen system at altitude. No signs that the U.F.O did any thing, in fact as I recall it they decided he was chasing a sun spot on his canopy. The huge one following the Japanes 747 looked more like a sight seeing trip then an attack. The Ladies in Alabama with the radiation burns, actualy sounds more like one of our secret projects. After all there were helicopters all around it. Its like backward engineering, then trying to control it after you make it. That one was very close to military test facilities.
One of the things I like to get into are places like Dug way. Dug way does have large under ground facilities, it was built in the fifties to keep the military up and runnig in the advent of a nuc. attack. Why should the goverment close it down? If you do secret experimants, why not up grade the place and continue on. If you really want to know where that stuff is located get your self a pilots map of the united states and look at the restricted air space. You see it's not hard to find if you know where to look. One of the things I like are the areas with magnatic anomalies, air compasses get thrown out of kilter there. Now what do you suppose causes that.

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PostSubject: Re: The Greys - Pfft ...   Sat May 05, 2012 10:25 pm

Two examples of Greys before the Hill case:
There is the British occultist Mr. Crowley who contacted an extraterrestrial entity in 1917 whose portraiture bears a striking resemblance to the Greys, going by the name of Lam. 
Some have ascertained that the Annunaki figurines of the Sumerians are one of the 5 types of Greys, which predates 20th century accounts by some 6000 years.
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PostSubject: Re: The Greys - Pfft ...   Sat May 05, 2012 10:33 pm

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Two examples of Greys before the Hill case:
There is the British occultist Mr. Crowley who contacted an extraterrestrial entity in 1917 whose portraiture bears a striking resemblance to the Greys, going by the name of Lam. 
Some have ascertained that the Annunaki figurines of the Sumerians are one of the 5 types of Greys, which predates 20th century accounts by some 6000 years.

Lam was not a grey, Crowley was insane - period.

Learn the scholastic end of the ancient texts ... start here:

http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/
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PostSubject: Re: The Greys - Pfft ...   Mon May 07, 2012 9:37 am

Postulating presumptions of the spurious Mr. Crowley's state of mental faculties are regardless to the point I was effecting in addressing your initial post for this thread - of determining where a precedence for the Greys might have first impacted upon the collective unconscious.
 The Lam entity bears features akin to a Grey...large cranium, diminutive mouth, and is defined as an alien intelligence. The sketch has more human like eyes as purported by alleged sightings of creatures whoso appear to be like the Greys, yet have definite distinctions inferring otherwise.
Personally, I have little interest in the delusive works of Sitchin,  I was making the point that amongst the plethora of Sumerian dolly figurines some bear similarity in that some have the almond shaped large eyes typical of Greys, and are also referred to as star travellers. 
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PostSubject: Re: The Greys - Pfft ...   Mon May 07, 2012 10:15 am

SmallShrubbery wrote:
... determining where a precedence for the Greys might have first impacted upon the collective unconscious.

I was under the impression that was what the article had looked into.
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PostSubject: Now confusion and such   Tue May 29, 2012 5:45 pm

actually I thought that was the subject of the article too and am no more confused then I was before? Was I, some how wrong in presuming that the title was the subject?

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PostSubject: Re: The Greys - Pfft ...   Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:46 pm

glider wrote:
Hello jacjgbowman,

My understanding is that the reason the so-called greys look the way that folks say is because of the picture that Betty Hill drew. So coming onto the scene in the 1960s makes sense. I'm guessing that the other grey images stem from that, and even got retrofitted into other events that occurred in the past like Roswell. Your thoughts?

Sounds about right...
I did a 3 hour interview that you can listen to on youtube @
the story of walt willis
Hope that will fill in some blanks for the folks here.
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PostSubject: my 'grey' visitations   Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:34 pm

As a 15 year old in 1987 whenever I was in the same room as Whitley Streibers 'Communion' book I could not relax if the book cover was seen by myself when entering the room. I'd walk in, see the face on the cover then try to ignore by watching television or playing computer games, but I could not relax, I couldn't stop thinking about the face on the cover, and the only way I could get on with my thing without it bothering me was to turn the book over so I couldn't see the face on the cover.
I couldn't understand why this was so, till about 6 years later. I began reading UFO books at the age of about 20/21, that was when realising I already had many encounters to my own personal experience, aside from the sighting I and many kids at school saw which I always knew of, and a strange event in the sky that me, mum, dad, brother and sister saw when I was about 4 years old.
Then I got hold of my mums 'Communion' book by Whitley, and began to recall all the 'grey' visitations I had in one home when about 3 or 4 years old. These visitations were dozens in number, sometimes every night, sometimes a few nights a week, and sometimes only a few times in a few weeks. This also began round about the same time I began sleepwalking, but both only ever occurring in my childhood mainly in that one home which was the home from my childhood that had the worst security from all my childhood homes. For lack of home security to have a basis on my 'grey' visitation being allowed to occur is a massive slap in the face for sceptics.
I was only 3 or 4 when these visitations first began and when were present most, I had began to hate and fear these people enormously, but had put it down to being normal and probably a dream. Only after reading about the 'greys' did I begin to realise their most visits with me about 18 years earlier were not dreams. I had tried to forget about them, it was mainly only ever from when 3 or 4 years old, but with a few visitations occurring in my teenage years.
Reading Whitleys book made me remember what had been occurring to me as a 3 or 4 year old, and made me realise why when in the same room as the book and me seeing the cover face (when 15 and 16 year old) I could never relax until after turning the book over and 'hiding' the face on the front cover.
I was 3 or 4 years old (75 and 76) when having dozens of 'grey' visitations, never had I heard or seen 'greys' in publications, films, documentaries, etc, thus I first learning of these people from personal experience. When the visits were occurring I had began to refer to them as the Insect People, because of how they moved much faster than us humans, they moved more like fast scurrying insects. They never harmed or hurt me, but they scared me massively, but now I believe they were present so to prevent me from going into sleepwalking, which I believe is a kind of spiritual possession. Health services have proven sleepwalking is not a function of the persons own brain controlling their muscle movements, but refuse to accept it could be spiritual possession because they don't even accept the spirit of each individual exists, never mind considering if spirits of unknown origins exist.
And about 6 years ago I first finding stories of the Ant People from Native North American culture, they too sounding very much like the 'greys.' The story of the Ant People within Native North American peoples says they approached a tribe and took them underground to live with them whilst major cataclysms caused havoc above the ground, then the tribe ventured back above the ground to live alone after the cataclysms had ceased.
Greys, Ant People, Insect People, they prefer the latter 2 names, and some will be Alien, some will be earth bound, and some will be of spirit.
This is culture, this is tens of thousands of years in knowing of these people, this is a race of people we share this planet with and whom are much more advanced than ourselves, with technology, know how and personal ability.
They are our friends, they aren't enemies despite many people fearing and hating what they do.
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