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| Subject: Noah's Ark Found...12,000ft Up Peak Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:15 pm | |
| Daily Star (National newspaper U.K.- Page 13) Wednesday April 28th 2010
Explorers say that carbon testing on the site at Mt. Ararat in Turkey proves their find is 4,800 years old.
The object in question appears to be made from Cypress Wood rather than Gopher Wood
Turkish officials are now wanting to ask for UNESCO World Heritage Status, before a large archaeological dig starts.
Quite a while ago Mr Robert Bob Dean mentioned the Ararat find and that a U.S. Navy Seal team was sent in. He stated that the team recovered several artifacts. Then the lid was slamed shut! |
| | | Gort CE 1
Number of posts : 178 Age : 70 Location : McClusky ND Registration date : 2009-10-05
| Subject: Re: Noah's Ark Found...12,000ft Up Peak Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:57 pm | |
| Hi mac5,
I caught this story as it was sent to me early this morning. The first thing I did was to Google the expedition team to see if they were real. After that I started to look and see if any major media had posted the story. I saw that Fox News had, and so I am believing that it is true. I contacted our local NBC affiliate and gave them the link. I have not heard back from them.
This no doubt will go down in history as one of the greatest finds in the whole world. The shock waves of this will be unbelievable. I will be watching the national news tonight to see if they report it. | |
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| Subject: Ref: Noah's Ark Found... 12,000ft Up Peak Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:39 pm | |
| To Gort,
Just a few more details:
Turkish Geologist- Dr Ahmet Ozbec
Team Member- Yeung Wing-Cheung |
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| Subject: Re: Noah's Ark Found...12,000ft Up Peak Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:16 pm | |
| I heard this on coast to coast last night. The find was by Chinese and Turkish evangelical explorers locating the ark. But; a fellow or 2 found the ark about 20 years earlier in a different location on Arafat then the current find location.
I suspect this find because of the evangelical point of another find and this being a second and later location from the original find of 1990 which was originally photographed in 1958 or 59 from the air.
I will gladly watch how this turns out |
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| Subject: Noah's Ark Found...12,000ft Up Peak Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:23 am | |
| Robert Bob Dean said in one of his lectures that the U.S. Government had taken satalite images of the entire Ararat range, in total he said they found three anomalous objects. |
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| Subject: Re: Noah's Ark Found...12,000ft Up Peak Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:23 pm | |
| Unfortunately, its been called a hoax. I suspected such. - News source wrote:
- Liberty University archaeologist Dr. Randall Price, a veteran ark hunter, who was involved at one point in this particular "discovery" but who denies it has anything to do with The Real Noah's Ark.
I was the archaeologist with the Chinese expedition in the summer of 2008 and was given photos of what they now are reporting to be the inside of the Ark. I and my partners invested $100,000 in this expedition (described below) which they have retained, despite their promise and our requests to return it, since it was not used for the expedition. The information given below is my opinion based on what I have seen and heard (from others who claim to have been eyewitnesses or know the exact details).
To make a long story short: this is all reported to be a fake. The photos were reputed to have been taken off site near the Black Sea, but the film footage the Chinese now have was shot on location on Mt. Ararat. In the late summer of 2008 ten Kurdish workers hired by Parasut, the guide used by the Chinese, are said to have planted large wood beams taken from an old structure in the Black Sea area (where the photos were originally taken) at the Mt. Ararat site. In the winter of 2008 a Chinese climber taken by Parasut's men to the site saw the wood, but couldn't get inside because of the severe weather conditions. During the summer of 2009 more wood was planted inside a cave at the site. The Chinese team went in the late summer of 2009 (I was there at the time and knew about the hoax) and was shown the cave with the wood and made their film. As I said, I have the photos of the inside of the so-called Ark (that show cobwebs in the corners of rafters - something just not possible in these conditions) and our Kurdish partner in Dogubabyazit [stet] (the village at the foot of Mt. Ararat) has all of the facts about the location, the men who planted the wood, and even the truck that transported it.
So, there we have it. As to the motive of this evident fake clearly eludicated in Price's remarks, Myers concludes:
You can hardly blame the Turks around Ararat. There's a lot of money being poured into the local economy from these numerous creationist expeditions. It only makes sense to salt a few sites with chunks of wood.
Another blow to the religious society of faith. |
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| Subject: To, Gigas Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:11 pm | |
| Hi Gigas,
At the moment I wouldn't go so far as to call it a fake. It's Clear that this subject and geographical area have been visited before. It's clear that there are all types of outside interference going on here, the Turkish and Chinese governments havn't started to play their cards yet. Some of the local people probably do want to make some money but that doesn't mean all. The Ark has been part of their history for generations. If Robert Bob Dean is right the U.S. Military has artifacts and satalite images of three anomolous objects on the Ararat range that are still classified. I would like to see the U.N. step in on cases such as this, this is a 'Need To Know' for every citizen of Earth.
Thankyou for posting, people should know this has been going on for years! Now it's in the public eye 'Again' - We should all push for more definitive answers. |
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| Subject: Re: Noah's Ark Found...12,000ft Up Peak Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:13 pm | |
| I don't really know if it is a hoax but suspected such when I seen the pristine images of the interior. It looked to well preserved. |
| | | Neutron Seeker
Number of posts : 60 Age : 58 Location : Buffalo, NY Registration date : 2009-10-07
| Subject: RE: Noahs Ark Found Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:02 am | |
| Assuming the view that there was a worldwide flood. There is a interesting effect that needs to be taken into consideration. I'll call this the "Breakfast Cereal Effect." Which is basically this; did you ever notice that your cereal floating in the breakfast bowl tends to float together? If there was a flood, then there would be alot of debris floating together. Right? Then once the flood receeds, this floating debris would collect together around the mountains. So people might be finding flood flotsam, not Ark relics! | |
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| Subject: Ref: Noah's Ark Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:23 pm | |
| Hi, Neutron
You have put over a very good point - however; the photo's in the Telegraph (U.K. Broadsheet) show the wood to of been fashioned. They also seem to be (mostly) uniform in dimention.
It could just be an old shepheards hut (a hut with the thickest walls i've ever seen) - or it could be the most outstanding find in history?
I'm looking forward to see if they let a Western well recognized team take a look at their findings.
Kind regards
Mac 5 |
| | | Gort CE 1
Number of posts : 178 Age : 70 Location : McClusky ND Registration date : 2009-10-05
| Subject: Re: Noah's Ark Found...12,000ft Up Peak Wed May 12, 2010 7:05 am | |
| I am holding out on this. If it turns out to be a hoax then so be it.
There seems to be bad blood between Price and the team. I am not sure I buy his cobweb theory. At one point in time ( if it is the ark ) the temperature would have been conducive to allow life to flourish. The cobweb (if that is what it is ) may have been there for all of this time undisturbed. I believe it is possible for it to have been there 4,800 years ago and survived all of this time. I don't know if there is a decay process in cobwebs. I have already heard that it would not be possible to hoist 20 foot long beams up to the 14,000 foot location.
So we will wait and see what comes next. I would think that if they have applied for an archeological excavation permit, the next step would be to do some sonar testing to prove that the contents under the ice are there. | |
| | | Neutron Seeker
Number of posts : 60 Age : 58 Location : Buffalo, NY Registration date : 2009-10-07
| Subject: RE: Noah's Ark Found...!2,000ft Up Peak Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:08 pm | |
| I finally took a look at the web site for the researchers of this Ark site. It does look very interesting. The room they descended into is surprising, to say the least. Hopefully someone like Natonal Geographic will investigate. | |
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