First Show: Triangles

It's terrifying watching a show being aired this way. I've had no sneak peek, and this show seems to be introducing the new guy. He's skeptical. Or playing a skeptic on TV.

Let's discuss the show here. It's different.

I just finished watching UFO Hunters about the triangles. Wow, that was an unusual investigation, with the gold mine and the ancient airplanes. I was imagining, before I saw it, that the researchers might be camping covertly, near AirForce bases where those crafts might come and go, just like with area 51. (Well,.. including area 51!) (So as to glean if any of those might be ours). Nonetheless, the ancient jets are super intriguing, and have been shown to be aerodynamic. This new 'skeptic' guy, for being a smart man, displayed a moment of dumb-ness. Bill Birnes was theorizing about the ancient planes being evidence of time travel, and before anyone volunteered such, it was thee first idea to occur to me, as well, just as soon as I viewed that relic model. 'Skeptic' offered time travel as impossible, cuz we don't understand it---currently. Duh. However, I, ummm, disagreed that the gold mine and the airplane should have been --main-- investigational focuses. The eyewitness in the last part of the program, seemed very credible to me. When he testified that his ufo was being accompanied by a military jet, this is not the first time I have heard of such strangeness, and the 'Cash Landrum' case is a well known example. Such occurrences mean that, either some ufos are the military's, or the military and "aliens"(?) operate in collusion, or both those scenarios are going on.

I am PO'd. I totally missed it. I know they rerun on the weekend sometime, will see if I can catch it then.

Nancy Birnes wrote:

It's terrifying watching a show being aired this way. I've had no sneak peek, and this show seems to be introducing the new guy. He's skeptical. Or playing a skeptic on TV.

Let's discuss the show here. It's different.

The new guy is quite a character. I'm glad to see another skeptic on. I think it only helps the credibility of the show.

For the last couple of weeks I have been investigating a tiriangle sighting in my neck of the woods (SW VA) and the witness actually saw TWO triangles. One was stationary while the other docked on top of it. They took off over the mountain. The witness reports that her cell phone and radio were affected during the sighting. She had to reset her radio the next day.

Great show!

Trevor

I found the part about the acient talisman lacking. I say this because recently on the History Chanel air a program "Ancient Aliens". I believe Bill should have been given a photo or access to the statue that was displayed. It showed a headless spaceman on a ship. They showed how you could see the hoses and suit and such.

I forgot to comment about video shown, of a daylight triangle. That was real impressive. Annnnd, a --real-- footage. Of a triangle ufo. But however, it looked to me,----like 3 lights in formation, rather than 3 lights on a triangle shaped craft,----because I saw no craft, just those 3 lights.

Wow; that was a great episode. The ancient airplane models I had seen before, but I'd never seen recreations test-flown.

What was that reference Bill made to a time-travel experiment 20 years ago, apparently done by a military officer? I haven't heard of that before now. What were the circumstances, and what evidence or testimony is available concerning it?

Kevin is a good addition to the show; we need to bring skeptics into the fold--they keep us grounded, and it's always good when they're genuinely impressed by findings. Kevin seemed willing to consider that ancient people had an understanding of aerodynamics, but, like most skeptics, he wasn't willing to consider the possible or probable implications of that. That's a quest for another day, I suppose.

trevorl314 wrote:

The new guy is quite a character. I'm glad to see another skeptic on. I think it only helps the credibility of the show.

I agree, but only one of quality. Only one informed. Only one without sneers and uncrippled by ready anthropomorphism. Only one able to do the heavy lifting of the informed skeptic. Only one able to deny his own prejudices. Only one to actually go where the data goes. Otherwise? You dis-serve both science and ufology even as it's mostly science that is dis-served. My jury is still out on this new guy, but I have a bad feeling.

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Hello - I'm new here. Watched the show last night regarding the triangles. In 1973 I had my own triangle sighting in Maryland.

Another interesting facet I thought I'd mention - approx an hour before the sighting my boyfriend and I were fishing in an area along the Chesapeake Bay. We were approached by a glowing orb approx. the size of a large cantaloupe. We first witnessed the orb in a wooded area adjacent to an open field - after a few minutes the orb left the tree line and started across the field in a very direct straight path toward us. My boyfriends car was parked a few feet behind us. The ball of light/energy approached the car slowly moved up over the trunk lid and hovered over the roof of the car. The car passenger and driver side doors were open. The dome light was lit inside the car. The orb seemed very interested in his car and hovered above it as if it were checking the car out. After a few minutes it slowly moved up and over some nearby trees.

I am convinced to this day the orb was some type of reconnaissance craft sent down from the triangle.

Please feel free to contact me and I can share more details.

Alfred Lehmberg wrote:

trevorl314 wrote:

The new guy is quite a character. I'm glad to see another skeptic on. I think it only helps the credibility of the show.

I agree, but only one of quality. Only one informed. Only one without sneers and uncrippled by ready anthropomorphism. Only one able to do the heavy lifting of the informed skeptic. Only one able to deny his own prejudices. Only one to actually go where the data goes. Otherwise? You dis-serve both science and ufology even as it's mostly science that is dis-served. My jury is still out on this new guy, but I have a bad feeling.

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I hear ya!

i saw the season opener about the flying triangles at the very end there was great nite vision video of a flying triangle what is that ??? it looked great.....also they meantioned the military traveling in time where can i find out more on that thanks alot!

There was supposedly an experiment done during WWII, the Philadelphia Experiment, where the government experimented with teleportation. They made a movie about it, the History Channel did a show on it, you can see it here.

I'm wondering about Kevin's skepticism, did you notice how his attitude changed after they flew the model plane, he seemed disappointed that it flew, but seemed happy too. When he realized it he changed his tune...unless it was just what I saw. Anyway I think Bill will give him a run for his money .

The episode was great, I can't wait to see the rest of the season.

When I first heard about the new "format" I thought it was great! I'm a reality show dork and was hoping that by taking on a new format for the show we'd get more drama outta the "talent"!
True dat!

Loved Kevin whining about bats in the cave.
I almost wet myself, laughing.
He's hunting UFO's and is whining about being afraid of bats.
omg....
He must be a non believer.

If History is hoping to evoke our emotions by having an uninformed skeptic on board the team,
it worked with me!
I was completely annoyed by him by the end of the show but love the "reality" show aspect of the new season. Kevin will certainly add drama to the show.
I think we'll get to see more of Bill and Pat's personalities and perhaps more humor going around.

I had never seen the talismans before.
How beautiful.
Imagine finding one of those in a thrift store!

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What was that reference Bill made to a time-travel experiment 20 years ago, apparently done by a military officer? I haven't heard of that before now. What were the circumstances, and what evidence or testimony is available concerning it?
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Although it was a weird cryptic statement, Bill is stating a very real fact. It's from a story in the magazine in our August/September 2004 issue. It involves a very unusual, totally documented incident that occurred as a result of a remote viewing assignment conducted by Paul Smith.

It you would like to read the article, I've put up the PDF of it here:

http://www.ufoglobalmedia.com/public/19.4/19.4.52-57.remote.pdf

I did not know where this episode was heading with the artifact from South America. I was surprised at how the exact model landed just like the space shuttle with the nose cone up in the air. That bit of information was lost on many skeptics, who claim the artifact is a flying fish.

I thought Bill went out there with the time travel theory, but he seems to be having the time of his life. Many may disagree with him, but he is always entertaining to watch. I think he stated some of those wild theories to get a rise out of the new guy, Kevin.

I also do not think the large quiet triangle sighted in Texas was a classified ship the United States was working on. Why would the US fly such a top secret craft in a crowded area, when we have many very large and very remote bases to test such craft? I disagree with Bill on this one, and if he thinks about it, will also think otherwise. The "escort" jet may have been scrambled to follow the craft as it flew around the ground, and observe it. Also, many UFOs have been observed near water, and this triangle was following a creek.

A show that started off good, and ended great.