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PostSubject: Why did civilization slowly decline after the Egyptians?   Why did civilization slowly decline after the Egyptians? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 05, 2009 3:23 pm

That question has been brought up by many fringe authors, and it is an interesting one. I like to add to it: Why did the ancient Americans have toy wheels and not use the wheel for transporting themselves?

There are some who state a much older civilization existed over 12,000 years ago but was wiped out by a series of comets which caused a catastrophic flood. Then there are those who state we got a boost from extraterrestrials visiting us. I have pondered the possibility that they are both right: Extraterrestrial visitation and an ancient civilization.

The ancient civilization had been in contact with extraterrestrials from many different areas such as Sirius, Cygnus and the Pleiades. (Those are where most of the ancient religions focus on.) When the comets hit, it was devastating to the world and the civilization. The extraterrestrials came to visit and restart our civilization. The problem may have been they just memorized and did not learn anything.

This is just an idea that is based on the many ideas floating out there.
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PostSubject: Re: Why did civilization slowly decline after the Egyptians?   Why did civilization slowly decline after the Egyptians? Icon_minitimeSun Nov 01, 2009 9:32 pm

I was studying for an archeology exam this evening and noted that the current conventional Egyptologist view is that the Great Pyramid was built in 20 years by 84,000 people working 80 days per year. According to this view, these people set the 2,300,000 blocks of the pyramid, which averaged 2.5 tons each, in that time. According to my math, that means that the blocks had to be set at a rate of 60.104 seconds per block, if the builders worked 24 hours per day. I don't think this is even possible for beings with vastly superior technology.

I'd be really interested in reading any of your comments on this. Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Why did civilization slowly decline after the Egyptians?   Why did civilization slowly decline after the Egyptians? Icon_minitimeMon Nov 02, 2009 6:02 pm

Many theories range from them taking one hundred years to complete, to just a few years. Use of slaves was thought to build them earlier, but now the thinking is that these projects were too important to have lowly slaves build them.

Who built these marvels, and how is a very interesting question. There is a suggestion that the ancient Egyptians knew how to use levitation or other ways to move these monstrous blocks.

My main point is they had all this great knowledge and skill very briefly and then started to go down hill rather quickly. Why are future monuments not as grand? Why were the Greeks and Romans less technical with their building skills and knowledge?

Were the retaught the old knowledge and then were helped with building the pyramids to show how it worked? To only have a few keep the relearned ancient knowledge for themselves?

Even today, there is not a clear theory as to how they were able to build these pyramids so precisely.

5000 years ago, human kind had great knowledge. That knowledge slowly deteriorated through the centuries until we hit bottom during the Dark Ages. My question is why? Learning and techniques should of improved, not gone down hill.
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PostSubject: history?   Why did civilization slowly decline after the Egyptians? Icon_minitimeThu May 06, 2010 4:54 pm

lets go over what we know...from recorded history:
after the Egyptians
1. Carthage
2. Greece
3. Rome
4. China
5. India
6. Tibet
Then came waves of mauraders like the Khans then the Holy Romans and Byzantium, the crusades, the inquision and ignorance for a thousand years.the Dark Ages. That is what happened, that we know of...
In Europe and Asia.
While in the Americas
civiliazation took off in order...
The Olmec, the Toltecs, the Mayans, the Incans and then the Aztecs
all advanced at a pretty steady rate, until they too were brought down by greed, famine, war, climate change, disease and the arrival of the Spanish.
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PostSubject: Re: Why did civilization slowly decline after the Egyptians?   Why did civilization slowly decline after the Egyptians? Icon_minitimeFri May 07, 2010 3:34 pm

duane639 wrote:
I was studying for an archeology exam this evening and noted that the current conventional Egyptologist view is that the Great Pyramid was built in 20 years by 84,000 people working 80 days per year. According to this view, these people set the 2,300,000 blocks of the pyramid, which averaged 2.5 tons each, in that time. According to my math, that means that the blocks had to be set at a rate of 60.104 seconds per block, if the builders worked 24 hours per day. I don't think this is even possible for beings with vastly superior technology.

I'd be really interested in reading any of your comments on this. Thanks.


That is a mystery now isn't it. I read another experts quote saying the building construction was 20 years with 250,000 workers total with some forming stone in a quarry many miles up the river and another expert figured each block had to be set every 6 seconds or abouts.

Now, figure the logistics to feed and water 250,000 workers twice a day at least. Figure that figure in a time when it was sunny and hot and we all know if you are under nourished and thirsty you don't last very long toiling in high heat, day after day.

Now think this out, to quarry stone with no tools but a mallet or soft metal hammer and what, some kind of chisel pick in the hands of men pounding day in and day out. Than chisel the sides smooth and pull it to a ship on the Nile, raise it to be loaded and float it down the river to be hauled off and pulled to the site, raised by pulling it up a ramp and placing. That would be a block by block task taking months no matter how many men were tasking the job with simple tools.

Than we have to think of men chipping stone with no eye wear to stop chips flying in the eye and blinding the worker. I tried it, the stone chips flew in my eyes and I quit the test knowing men back than had the same problem as I just had. So could men have done this. Yes and no. Yes if they had technology borrowed to them to simply perform a duty and no they did not do it by hand and muscle.

I have an even more plausible theory.
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PostSubject: Re: Why did civilization slowly decline after the Egyptians?   Why did civilization slowly decline after the Egyptians? Icon_minitimeFri May 07, 2010 4:04 pm

Hi guys.

I don't mean to but in, but quite a few years back I watched something regarding radioactive sand in the Great Pyramid?

Can either of you enlighten me about this? I havn't learnt anything new about it? Maybe i'm not looking in the right places; I don't know!

I'm not well versed on this subject!

Kind regards

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PostSubject: Re: Why did civilization slowly decline after the Egyptians?   Why did civilization slowly decline after the Egyptians? Icon_minitimeFri May 07, 2010 4:22 pm

Some times it seems the very history of mankind is made up like an epic movie reenacting humanities past. For instance, we have a book of ages telling us a story of the beginning. Ad the story up and it still fails answering our beginning as simple sheep herders of untold thousands of years to a short recent time we moved from a nothing life style to a 50 some year old one of radio, tv, cars, planes and mass production of every convenience one needs in life.

Although the mind has no conclusive knowledge of the past, we see it sitting before us to ponder and wonder how it got there and by who was it built. Why is this so bewildering and vague to real thinkers seeing the loose ends of history and yet, so in place by those who make it up for the rest who would rather have some expert with a doctorate or PhD think it out for them to faithfully accept.

It does not make sense why we have an absent connection to our time line as a dominant species on this planet. Rock construction is beyond the bodies ability to assemble in the many manners we see in this world today. Even our technology of today cannot do what is on the ground from the past.

Anyone know information about the Egyptian artifacts being covertly removed from the Giza plateau at night. I just read something on this over at the daily grail.
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PostSubject: Re: Why did civilization slowly decline after the Egyptians?   Why did civilization slowly decline after the Egyptians? Icon_minitimeFri May 07, 2010 4:40 pm

Hi Gigas,

I think I know what you're getting at! And by that i'm not being rude, just honest.

A simple yes or no would have done!

Many kind regards

Mac 5.


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PostSubject: I know yes I know   Why did civilization slowly decline after the Egyptians? Icon_minitimeFri May 07, 2010 7:44 pm

But Zahi Hawass the man in charge at the pyramids and its foremost expert was there when they found the village and bodies of the pyramid builders, they went to the quarry, it was artisans carpenters, the Egyptian equivalent of the Army corps of engineers and it took a long time to build, it wasn't slaves or aliens (as far as the evidence shows now) these p0eople had DNA distracted and measured and for the most part it was the same as those who live in Egypt today. They used a system of levers and pullies to put the blocks in place counterbalances and stone and wood planes to slide the stones on.
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