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    natedog54
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    PostSubject: Re: UFO MAGAZINE TRYING TO SILENCE OTHERS   Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:06 am

    davefair wrote:
    Actually mantel (if indeed you are Philip)
    The greatfull citizens of hillsborogh county
    Gave me a very nice party at a place called hooters.
    A good time was had by all.
    By bieng a retired civil servant and a retired navy seabee, I am twice a citizen and a double dipper.
    Add to that that my wife taught school for thiry three years in the same elementary school.
    So she too is a double dipper. affraid
    This allows me the leisure to persue my hobbies.
    one of which is pricking the hide of malevolent malcontents
    who have no regard to the sensibilities of those they come
    into contact with.
    I really don't blame bill for having the attorney write you.
    My point was that you were bieng crass and obviously looking for
    a battle.
    Alfred, who's sense of humor is even dryer then mine
    was bieng gentle with you. I on the other hand don't mind goring
    the ox. (did you catch my drift yet?)

    here is a sample of dry wit. Please try to grasp it.
    A fool and his magazine are soon parted.

    I remain
    ever the ufo fan
    Davefair


    Totally off topic, I know. But thank you for your service. My Dad was also a police officer, serving the same community, for 30 years. cheers
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    PostSubject: Re: UFO MAGAZINE TRYING TO SILENCE OTHERS   Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:57 am

    natedog54 wrote:
    davefair wrote:
    Actually mantel (if indeed you are Philip)
    The greatfull citizens of hillsborogh county
    Gave me a very nice party at a place called hooters.
    A good time was had by all.
    By bieng a retired civil servant and a retired navy seabee, I am twice a citizen and a double dipper.
    Add to that that my wife taught school for thiry three years in the same elementary school.
    So she too is a double dipper. affraid
    This allows me the leisure to persue my hobbies.
    one of which is pricking the hide of malevolent malcontents
    who have no regard to the sensibilities of those they come
    into contact with.
    I really don't blame bill for having the attorney write you.
    My point was that you were bieng crass and obviously looking for
    a battle.
    Alfred, who's sense of humor is even dryer then mine
    was bieng gentle with you. I on the other hand don't mind goring
    the ox. (did you catch my drift yet?)

    here is a sample of dry wit. Please try to grasp it.
    A fool and his magazine are soon parted.

    I remain
    ever the ufo fan
    Davefair


    Totally off topic, I know. But thank you for your service. My Dad was also a police officer, serving the same community, for 30 years. cheers


    Personally I think all police officers deserve a medal, I don't know ghow they do the job but we'd be lost without them.

    Regards,

    Philip.
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    PostSubject: Re: UFO MAGAZINE TRYING TO SILENCE OTHERS   Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:07 pm

    Philip
    I have never talked to or for that matter recieved any communications from bill.
    I am a fan of his show. I think that my goverment has covered up the alien sightings.
    I believe this because of the sightings that I have seen over a good many years.
    I believe there are not more sightings reported because people (in general )never look up
    the old tunnel vision thing. My fatherwas a general avation pilot, small airplanes, he taught me
    look arround and see what was there. Primarly so he could avoid other airplanes. In Viet Nam I learned to
    listen for the sound of huey's. That primarly to get on it and get the heck out there.
    My goverment spent a great deal of time trying to convince people that they were not seeing what they saw.
    You english on the other hand don't seem to have that problem.
    I don't really mind when it's some goverment test of some unnamed aircraft. That I can under stand.
    But the things not the goverment should should be admitted to.
    I had heard, thru the grapevine, that it was because they couldn't stop them or for that matter even tell us what it was.
    Ergo, the ole swamp gas thing and the all time favorite weather ballons. Thousands of people have seen the strange lights in the night
    sky and thousands more have seen the daylight sightings.
    Colonel Corso, came out and admited some things, that he knew to be true. They butchered him in order to make him seem
    a crack pot. Just as they would butcher me, if I ganied any attention as to what I saw.
    Thank God I don't know any secrets.
    What I have notice is that when the secret keepers get some age on them, retired and don't have to worry any more
    they have a tendcy to open up.

    cheers

    Davefair



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    PostSubject: Re: UFO MAGAZINE TRYING TO SILENCE OTHERS   Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:20 am

    davefair wrote:
    Philip
    I have never talked to or for that matter recieved any communications from bill.
    I am a fan of his show. I think that my goverment has covered up the alien sidings.
    I believe this because of the sightings that I have seen over a good many years.
    I believe there are not more sightings reported because people (in general )never look up
    the old tunnel vision thing. My fatherwas a general avation pilot, small airplanes, he taught me
    look arround and see what was there. Primarly so he could avoid other airplanes. In Viet Nam I learned to
    listen for the sound of huey's. That primarly to get on it and get the heck out there.
    My goverment spent a great deal of time trying to convince people that they were not seeing what they saw.
    You english on the other hand don't seem to have that problem.
    I don't really mind when it's some goverment test of some unnamed aircraft. That I can under stand.
    But the things not the goverment should should be admitted to.
    I had heard, thru the grapevine, that it was because they couldn't stop them or for that matter even tell us what it was.
    Ergo, the ole swamp gas thing and the all time favorite weather ballons. Thousands of people have seen the strange lights in the night
    sky and thousands more have seen the daylight sightings.
    Colonel Corso, came out and admited some things, that he knew to be true. They butchered him in order to make him seem
    a crack pot. Just as they would butcher me, if I ganied any attention as to what I saw.
    Thank God I don't know any secrets.
    What I have notice is that when the secret keepers get some age on them, retired and don't have to worry any more
    they have a tendcy to open up.

    cheers

    Davefair



    Wing Commander Alan Turner M.B.E. here in the UK didn't speak out until well into retirement. I was fortunate enough to meet him and interview him. One wonders how many more there out there like him ?

    regards,

    Philip.
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    PostSubject: Re: UFO MAGAZINE TRYING TO SILENCE OTHERS   Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:57 pm

    philip,

    That was nice to hear about your father.
    Mine was a two degree engineer In both electrical and mechanical. He worked for henry ford jr. as a trouble shooter for plant problems
    and production line issues, back in the early days of automation. I on the the other hand worked out doors as an operating engineer and at my peak a storm water engineer ( or as we like to call it gravity) Not too critical unless you live on flat land at three feet above sea level.
    Which by the by is most of the coast line of Florida. Just as a side note most hurricanes have a 12 to 26 ft. storm surge.

    I by the way saw your picture on your site. I would guess that you are not a whole lot younger then I.

    Davefair
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    PostSubject: Re: UFO MAGAZINE TRYING TO SILENCE OTHERS   Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:15 am

    davefair wrote:
    philip,

    That was nice to hear about your father.
    Mine was a two degree engineer In both electrical and mechanical. He worked for henry ford jr. as a trouble shooter for plant problems
    and production line issues, back in the early days of automation. I on the the other hand worked out doors as an operating engineer and at my peak a storm water engineer ( or as we like to call it gravity) Not too critical unless you live on flat land at three feet above sea level.
    Which by the by is most of the coast line of Florida. Just as a side note most hurricanes have a 12 to 26 ft. storm surge.

    I by the way saw your picture on your site. I would guess that you are not a whole lot younger then I.

    Davefair


    My father was a coal miner and worked all his life on the coal face all his life and I'm proud to say that. As for my age, I'm 52 but this morning I feela lot older.

    regards,

    Philip.
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    PostSubject: Re: UFO MAGAZINE TRYING TO SILENCE OTHERS   Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:19 pm

    actually philip,
    In my true muzzlie fashion I got it wrong!
    It was natedogs father who was the cop.
    I was a deputy sheriff here in florida after I came back from vietnam.
    I changed professions after I arrested a man for killing his two and half year old step daughter-.
    He was 6'4" and wiegh in at just under 300 pds. He had hit her in the stomach and ruptured her liver and splien.
    When I got to the hospital,(the doctor called for a deputy) She was laying on a tabel looking up at me with her dying eyes.
    Both the doctor and his nurse were crying. There was nothing to be done for her. The doctor told me what had happened.
    I could here him in the waiting room laughing.
    I hate to admit it but I lost it. Fortunatly he resisted. I broke one of his legs and three of his ribbs.
    The truly bad part was this, I had him hand cuffed in the back seat. We had a wire mesh seperating us.
    Every time he spit on me I slammed the brakes on. By the time I got to the jail, it looked like I had worked him over
    with a waffle iron.
    The jail wouldn't tale him cause they figured he was going to die. The hospital wouldn't treat him, because of what he had done.
    To cut a long story short, he was convicted. He later died in prison, from bieng gang rapped, or so they told me.
    I decided to quit law enforcement, because I shouldn't have lost my temper with him, but to be honest about it. If I had to arrest him again
    I would probably kill him. I was haunted by her eyes.She was so small and defenselessly. So I went over to the other side of the county, the civil service side. Storm water engineering. I spent my time in the seven hundred square miles of Hillsborogh county, working out of a pickup truck. I know on a personal basis all of the water sheds and streams. For my lunch break I would brown bag it and do some fishing while eating. It was a great life.

    Davefair
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    PostSubject: Re: UFO MAGAZINE TRYING TO SILENCE OTHERS   Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:25 am

    davefair wrote:
    actually philip,
    In my true muzzlie fashion I got it wrong!
    It was natedogs father who was the cop.
    I was a deputy sheriff here in florida after I came back from vietnam.
    I changed professions after I arrested a man for killing his two and half year old step daughter-.
    He was 6'4" and wiegh in at just under 300 pds. He had hit her in the stomach and ruptured her liver and splien.
    When I got to the hospital,(the doctor called for a deputy) She was laying on a tabel looking up at me with her dying eyes.
    Both the doctor and his nurse were crying. There was nothing to be done for her. The doctor told me what had happened.
    I could here him in the waiting room laughing.
    I hate to admit it but I lost it. Fortunatly he resisted. I broke one of his legs and three of his ribbs.
    The truly bad part was this, I had him hand cuffed in the back seat. We had a wire mesh seperating us.
    Every time he spit on me I slammed the brakes on. By the time I got to the jail, it looked like I had worked him over
    with a waffle iron.
    The jail wouldn't tale him cause they figured he was going to die. The hospital wouldn't treat him, because of what he had done.
    To cut a long story short, he was convicted. He later died in prison, from bieng gang rapped, or so they told me.
    I decided to quit law enforcement, because I shouldn't have lost my temper with him, but to be honest about it. If I had to arrest him again
    I would probably kill him. I was haunted by her eyes.She was so small and defenselessly. So I went over to the other side of the county, the civil service side. Storm water engineering. I spent my time in the seven hundred square miles of Hillsborogh county, working out of a pickup truck. I know on a personal basis all of the water sheds and streams. For my lunch break I would brown bag it and do some fishing while eating. It was a great life.

    Davefair


    You have nothing to be ashamed of, shows that efven police officers are human. I have 2 daughters and a granddaugther myself , so put me in the same position as you were in and who knows what I might have done.

    Regards and respect.


    Philip.
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    PostSubject: Re: UFO MAGAZINE TRYING TO SILENCE OTHERS   Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:39 pm

    Thank you sir,
    Makes me feel better that some one understands.
    There are too many monsters in this world, They come in human form, but by god they are not human.
    physopaths seem to come in two catagorys, the monsters ones and the politicians.
    The problem is this, in the old days they would give um a rope neck tie. The inlightened folks of today, just want to leave um in jail.


    davefair
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    PostSubject: Pro-FairDave   Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:26 pm

    Dave, I've loads of respect for what law enforcement does. Yet so little is done to show them how much it is appreciated. I too am a double-dipper. I'm 100% disabiled from exposure to Agent Orange. I've got only 30% heart-function, and have an ostomy bag. Life can suck abit, but only if you let it. I arrested seven times in the ICU and my doctor said I was a miracle. I however think that the man upstrairs still has a need for me here. When I was able to after I got home. I bought a Black-Forrest chocolate cake and a large cheesecake sampler and took it to the EMS station near my house to say thanks for what they do. I also bought three dozen Dunkin Donuts and dropped them off at our local Polk County Sherriffs station. As they always follow the EMS guys to a 911 call.
    All where surprised, I said I thought it's ashame more people don't do this for you guys.. Thanks for your service(s)...wish I could shake your hand. I do enjoy your posts & wit.
    Bill T/Saberjet
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    PostSubject: Re: UFO MAGAZINE TRYING TO SILENCE OTHERS   Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:27 am

    Bill Thomas/Saberjet wrote:
    Dave, I've loads of respect for what law enforcement does. Yet so little is done to show them how much it is appreciated. I too am a double-dipper. I'm 100% disabiled from exposure to Agent Orange. I've got only 30% heart-function, and have an ostomy bag. Life can suck abit, but only if you let it. I arrested seven times in the ICU and my doctor said I was a miracle. I however think that the man upstrairs still has a need for me here. When I was able to after I got home. I bought a Black-Forrest chocolate cake and a large cheesecake sampler and took it to the EMS station near my house to say thanks for what they do. I also bought three dozen Dunkin Donuts and dropped them off at our local Polk County Sherriffs station. As they always follow the EMS guys to a 911 call.
    All where surprised, I said I thought it's ashame more people don't do this for you guys.. Thanks for your service(s)...wish I could shake your hand. I do enjoy your posts & wit.
    Bill T/Saberjet
    Lakeland FL

    Thank me for the hurricanes........... hugo and andrew thats the part I got the good medals from............. I still go fishing........... you should to.
    in my day the ambulance was from the funeral home......... me state police certification read 000825 so I was one of the first............the sheriff sent me so I would quit spelling it wacky tebbacy....... the judge and prosecutors all got a kick out of it then.......... they used to call us county cow counters cause there were more cows then people in the county............ we always beat the ambulance.........
    Life is still good..... the 100% doesn't mean go lay down n die, just natures way of telling you to slow down......... My wife, the one who taught 33 yrs at thonotasa elementary, is a heart patient........... triple bypass nine shints n stints............ she's hanging in there.......... she's making the grandaughters wedding vail by hand......... all hand sewn............... Polks got a good S.O. used to know a few of them.........
    to be honest, I've had a good life, I just worry about the kids... the grands won't have it as well as we did......... come find me on face book..... we can be firends there as well as here............might even do a video chat or two............
    dave
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    PostSubject: Facebook ??   Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:35 am

    Hey, my Friend, Who do I look for to find you on FB? I'm on FB with my name Bill Thomas, but being a half wit I'm still trying to figure out how it works... I do recall the phrase "cow counters" far less inflamitory than what people use today... Of all my friends, the best all, had a background in law enforcement. You knew where you stood with them and you knew they'd back you up too. My son-inlaw works for the Hillsb. County Water dept. He's a yakker, (customer service rep.) He's a good kid though, I wont hold it against him that he's of Polish heritage, (boy does it take him for ever to make a decision, has to check wind drift and all that..) does sometimes drives me batty!! Good to make the connection.
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    PostSubject: Re: UFO MAGAZINE TRYING TO SILENCE OTHERS   Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:47 pm

    Bill Thomas/Saberjet wrote:
    Hey, my Friend, Who do I look for to find you on FB? I'm on FB with my name Bill Thomas, but being a half wit I'm still trying to figure out how it works... I do recall the phrase "cow counters" far less inflamitory than what people use today... Of all my friends, the best all, had a background in law enforcement. You knew where you stood with them and you knew they'd back you up too. My son-inlaw works for the Hillsb. County Water dept. He's a yakker, (customer service rep.) He's a good kid though, I wont hold it against him that he's of Polish heritage, (boy does it take him for ever to make a decision, has to check wind drift and all that..) does sometimes drives me batty!! Good to make the connection.

    ACTUALLY! I am fairly easy to find.......... under add friends type david fairbrother.............face book will find me send a friends requerst and away we go.
    once you get there just look at my profile and well then you know who I am....... a week from saturday my grandaughter is getting married.
    but you send the friends request and I'll accept...........
    Hmmmm!
    dave
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    PostSubject: A Brother & Arms !   Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:45 am

    Thanks Dave, I believe we'l become fast friends...
    Bill Thomas/Saberjet
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