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PostSubject: Morning Coffee   Wed May 12, 2010 6:25 am

I started this thread in the MUFON Forum, and I was wondering how it would work out here. So this will be my first one and let's see what happens.

Good Morning All Smile

Much to my dismay Ancient Aliens was not on last night. Why is it that every time the History Channel comes up with a good program it gets canceled. I see more and more shows looking at the internet as a way to provide information more than mainstream media.

Today's Topic From Me:

Burying Your Head In The Sand

I look back at history and I see a trend that has been with us for ever. We fear that which we do not understand.

Our brains are wired a certain way, and it is all part of our survival. Our brain has that built in survival instinct as a conditioned response. I think that warriors and military personnel get conditioned to fight that initial fight or flee response.

So I guess that it should be no surprise to find out that when people started reporting UFOs, that we had to experience something that was unknown to us. Since they exhibited properties and characteristic that were beyond our ability to understand them, we chose to bury our head in the sand and not look at them.

I say we, and I mean that as in more than one person. Remember when you were a kid and you thought there was something in the closet and it made you scared? Your parents would come in and turn on the light and show you there was nothing there. I think this has a lot to do with how we as a whole have been dealing with the whole UFO phenomenon. We can't explain it so let's make believe that it just isn't there.

I strongly believe that if each one of us has the courage to stand up and do what they can to educate the public about the documented proof that we have gathered for the last 40 years, it will make a difference. It is time to walk around and start helping people to understand that it is OK to not understand, but be willing to learn. I have no idea what the future will hold. I do however know that ignoring this as if it did not exist, is not going to help. It is time to understand what is going on, not hide from it.
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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Wed May 12, 2010 10:15 am

Gort wrote:
It is time to understand what is going on, not hide from it.
Easier said than done. If I have learned anything about people over the last 3 decades it's that they don't want to learn; and this idea is not exclusive to the UFO field. People come to conclusions about certain subjects and become ridged in these beliefs, to the extent they refuse to hear that their processing approach, how they have come to their conclusions, is flawed.

I just watched a couple of videos this morning that do nothing but feed the R-Complex brain. This is enough for most people to keep the fear simmering in the background - and they refuse to let go of the picture.

ET is going to have to get actively involved with teaching, and if they "can't" for some odd reason, we need to figure out why. Everything I have looked at over the last 3+ decades has shown that something not very nice is coming. It shows that the last time this scenario unfolded, an entire section of humans who knew NOTHING of the base agreement between ET, humanity, and disaster intervention - died in the last event. The Toba genetic bottleneck is the biggest enigma: 35,000 people left - all on the same continent? Where did the rest of the people on that continent go? And what about Neanderthal people?

There is an enigma in this that if looked at poses a question regarding people, higher brain functioning, and survival. It states: Dummies die. And unless there is active intervention, I fear it is going to happen again.
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PostSubject: Morning Coffee   Wed May 12, 2010 1:05 pm

I'll have a N.A.T.O. Standard please - Milk and 2 sugers.

Hi Gort,

Are you going to make this a sort of a mini series of morning thoughts?

If so, I'm looking forward to it!

Any thoughts written even if not relevant to the person thinking them, may have relevance to somebody else.

Best Wishes, Mac 5.
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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Thu May 13, 2010 1:20 pm

Good Morning All Smile

Well this is my second cup of coffee and I am really enjoying it.

Today's Topic From Me:

The Essence Of Science

Since the dawn of man, we have used science to understand everything about us and around us. It has been a foundation for almost all that we have built since our existence began.

I had the pleasure of receiving an e-mail from Ann Druffel last night in response to the one I sent her telling her how much I loved her book Firestorm. reading that book has been a catalyst for me to work harder and get even more involved in the UFO phenomenon.

Right now I am trying to imagine what it must have been like to be living and being part of the 50's and 60's as part of NICAP or any of the other organizations that were right there at the front lines, trying so desperately to show the world that what was happening was real. We too have the chance to make a difference in the world. It is in our hands at this time, and we should do all that we can to learn from anyone that was part of that era, and use that knowledge to enhance what we now now. I truly believe that there are scientists just like Dr. James McDonald out there who would devote the same amount of energy to solving the questions concerning UFOs, that he did.

My hope is that Ann will join us here and invite others who understood how important all of the efforts made by our predecessors were, and help us to encourage those like us, to step out of the shadows and work together to make the essence of science the catalyst that propels us forward into a better world.
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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Fri May 14, 2010 6:53 am

Good Morning All Smile

Today's Topic From Me:

Speaking Out

Henry W. McElroy Jr.

http://brieftoeisenhower.wordpress.com/2....enhower-brief/

How many others are out there?
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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Fri May 14, 2010 12:43 pm

I don't know alot about the U.S. political system, the link was extremely interesting though - thankyou for shareing!

Best wishes.
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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Sat May 15, 2010 8:58 am

Good Morning All Smile

Today's Topic From Me:

“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever does”... Margaret Mead
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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Sat May 15, 2010 10:28 am

Regarding Eisenhower, if the component parts of the overall picture are looked at, we need to ask a single question: "What happened?"

I suggest a community effort and a separate posting of the conclusions reached here where no comments are added; it would be a collection of time-line events that will hopefully paint a clearer picture. Like Gort's posting of the Mead quote, we either work together and fix this picture, or we can swim about in a sea of confusion forever.

Is everyone in agreement? Do you want to try this?
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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Mon May 17, 2010 7:52 am

Good Morning All Smile

Today's Topic From Me:

Communication Is A Good Thing

I know that as long as we keep on a positive progressive path, and keep communicating that with each other, and the world, great things will result from it.
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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Mon May 17, 2010 7:54 am

onlychild wrote:
Regarding Eisenhower, if the component parts of the overall picture are looked at, we need to ask a single question: "What happened?"

I suggest a community effort and a separate posting of the conclusions reached here where no comments are added; it would be a collection of time-line events that will hopefully paint a clearer picture. Like Gort's posting of the Mead quote, we either work together and fix this picture, or we can swim about in a sea of confusion forever.

Is everyone in agreement? Do you want to try this?

I am in agreement. Do you want to start the new thread?
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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Mon May 17, 2010 11:32 am

Gort wrote:
onlychild wrote:
Regarding Eisenhower, if the component parts of the overall picture are looked at, we need to ask a single question: "What happened?"

I suggest a community effort and a separate posting of the conclusions reached here where no comments are added; it would be a collection of time-line events that will hopefully paint a clearer picture. Like Gort's posting of the Mead quote, we either work together and fix this picture, or we can swim about in a sea of confusion forever.

Is everyone in agreement? Do you want to try this?

I am in agreement. Do you want to start the new thread?

OK, let's see who else wants this. In the meanwhile hang on cuz I found another anomaly. It conforms to the 911 "signature" approach, and basically say the BP oil disaster - was deliberate. If this is right we had better wake up fast.
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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Mon May 17, 2010 2:27 pm

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PostSubject: Re:Eisenhower   Mon May 17, 2010 4:23 pm

According to Eisenhower himself the Military Industrial Complex took over, these folks have since added corporate and elitist elements and those from other countries as well,
They control: the economy, the perception, The media, the government, all important information and the protection of all assets under their control. This is why it is more difficult to find true answers.
This is my opinion, what do you think?
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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Mon May 17, 2010 4:30 pm

jackgbowman wrote:
According to Eisenhower himself the Military Industrial Complex took over, these folks have since added corporate and elitist elements and those from other countries as well,
They control: the economy, the perception, The media, the government, all important information and the protection of all assets under their control. This is why it is more difficult to find true answers.
This is my opinion, what do you think?

Yes . cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Mon May 17, 2010 4:53 pm

jackgbowman wrote:
According to Eisenhower himself the Military Industrial Complex took over, these folks have since added corporate and elitist elements and those from other countries as well,
They control: the economy, the perception, The media, the government, all important information and the protection of all assets under their control. This is why it is more difficult to find true answers.
This is my opinion, what do you think?


This is what I think, something big is ramping up and looking at the callous acts of world governments with elitist corporate controllers, Were screwed here on the bottom of the pile.

Look at whats going on around the world, volcano's, earthquakes, waters sweeping lives and property away and strangest of all, NASA going up in smoke and this mysterious uncontrollable oil rupture contaminating the ocean. Its like no big deal to them because the end is coming anyway and they wanna sit back and watch the crowds while knowing their hidden technology will be lifting them off to save themselves for another day.

Its obvious our NWO elitist governments have the ufo technology to leave devastating calamity while the rest take it on the chin like we obediently accept every day they force it down our throats. Its crazy whats going on now and its getting worse. I noticed this began back in 1970s with the gas shortage, sugar, shortage and milk shortages.

The 1950s and 60s were fine till we got in the 70s. Its been down hill ever since with 2001 being the tipping point to the plunge. I'm undersided yet about 2012 but from what I see occuring, something big is soon to arrive.
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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Tue May 18, 2010 9:57 am

Good Morning All Smile

Today's Topic From Me:

Being Able to Understand The Understandable

Sometimes it takes seconds. Sometimes it takes decades, and then sometimes it hasn't happened yet. I don't like to use the word never, because the moment you use it, someone will come along and prove you wrong. I wish I could remember who it was, or when in my youth I heard the phrase "Imagine The Possibilities"

Somehow I took that to heart, and it was my Father who, when he was trying so desperately to show me different ways of doing math problems, explained that knowing and being able to use different formulas was the key to solving problems. I would watch him scribble numbers in less than a minute, and provide me the answer that it took me a half hour of torment to come up with.

So when someone says "That can't be done", I muse back to that vision, and say " You just haven't used the right formulas yet"

He also showed me that when faced with a brick wall, you have options. You can hit it, and break through it. You can climb over it. You can go around it. You can even dig under it. There is always a way to get to the other side.

Just because you have not experienced something does not mean that it does not exist. I believe that our planet has experienced things that we can not explain because not enough of us have experienced it yet.

I often hear people say, Where is the scientific proof to validate the existence of UFOs?

We have all kinds of evidence, and as soon as it is presented, it is whisked away and kept hidden so as to portray that there was no evidence, but that is a subject for an entirely different epic novel.

The main point that I am trying to make here is that if you can open your mind enough to allow the thought that other possibilities exist, you have solved the first problem facing you. New physics are being imagined and tested. What once was said to be not possible, is now fact.
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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Wed May 19, 2010 10:37 am

Good Morning All Smile

Today's Topic From Me:

Energy

There isn't a day that goes by that I don't sit and ponder how as I grow older the less energy I have. I think back to when I ran Cross Country & Track in high school, and how much energy I expended trying to prove that I was better at it than other people.

I guess it is just that competitive nature in me that compels me to do things like that. I learned what it was like to be a team player and to do more than what was expected of me so that I would help my team.

We all are subject to days when we just don't have that energy it takes to do what is expected of us. Fortunately for me there has always been someone around me to inspire me to keep going and do more than I needed to.

As I sit here this morning and drink my coffee I hope that there are people around you, that inspire you to do more than what is expected of you. I have expended a lot of energy in my lifetime so far, but when I think back, it was all for a good cause. So as I expend the energy it takes to bring the truth to light about UFOs, I hope you can expend your energy with me. The light that it will become, will fuel future generations forever.
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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Thu May 27, 2010 10:00 am

Good Morning All Smile

Today's Topic From Me:

Contact

Just watched Ancient Aliens "The Return"

It made me think about how are we going to act when contact is made.

Some theorize that all forms of society and government will fail, when this is announced.

I disagree. I believe it will undergo a major overhaul and change, but I don't believe it will fall apart. If there were only one religion and one government that might happen, but we are blessed with being diverse and that is what will hold us all together.

The thing that I found most interesting was that the protocol if contact is made is to keep it secret until the authorities determine whether to release the information or not. So contact may have been made and we may have been kept out of the loop intentionally.

Hopefully this topic provides some discussion.
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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Fri May 28, 2010 6:17 am

Good Morning All Smile

Today's Topic From Me:

Scientific Proof

It would be great to hear how much science has improved over the last 60 years, from the scientists who are on the cutting edge of Research and Development programs.

If we are truly looking for scientific proof, what new technologies are we using to scientifically prove that the objects that thousands of people witness, that are classified as CE1 or higher, are happening?

What new tools and procedures do we have to use as a way of proving what is happening?
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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:31 am

Good Morning All Smile

Today's Topic From Me:

Special Access Programs

When I listened to the latest archived program of Future Theater from Sat night, I realized that the scope of the special access programs is most likely more than I can imagine. When I read reports of plasma like balls of light acting like intelligently controlled craft, it makes me wonder just what is really in our capabilities.
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PostSubject: Re: Scientific Proof   Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:40 pm

I, on occasion, sing with a band and one night I came home from a gig and turned on the discovery channel - between 2 and 3 in the morning:
Northrup Grumman was doing a promo film of advance craft they were playing with and designing- large black triangles and rectangle craft. Not as huge as the Giants seen in recent years, but much like the Belgian craft from 20 years ago. What we (US) have, what is alien, what we've borrowed and what is disinformation become convoluted over time. Like we are all atomic particals trying to create our own reality.
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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:21 am

I agree Jack. I think it is all part of the confusion created to try to keep the unknown...unknown.
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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:22 am

Good Morning All Smile

Today's Topic From Me:

Learning

We learn from experiences that we have throughout our lifetime. Some we are exposed to, others we have someone who has had the experience, and is willing to show us what they have learned from theirs.

I believe that it just comes down to this: How are you learning?
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PostSubject: Re: Morning Coffee   Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:13 pm

Good Morning All Smile

Today's Topic From Me:

Psychology of UFOs

This is an area that I hope others will respond to. If you are like me, you have been studying UFOs for a while now, and you're tired. You are tired because with all of the material that you have studied, you are left with just as many questions as you started with.

My learned abilities to understand psychology as it relates to UFOs is somewhat limited. Our brains are programed to respond to analytical thinking. In science, when you mix chemical A with chemical B, you always get the same reaction. So therefore the answer C is always a constant. When it comes to UFOs, we mix A & B together and we get many results. To our logical brains, this does not makes sense to us and we can not prove the answer with the logic that we have used for centuries. So for all of us who have mixed A & B, with the C result not being C as we know it, it puzzles our way of logic.

It is frustrating because we have not learned to think differently.

So if changing the result, is based on one or more of the elements used to obtain the result being changed, then we must find where that change occurs. We seem to be focused on proving that the result is there. Should we be looking at how the result was obtained, when the elements mixed do not result in the same result?

One of the elements is secrecy. This is where the psychology comes in.

When you have something that you want to keep secret, the only way to keep it secret, is to not let anyone else know that secret.

If the secret does get out, you have to do all that you can to minimize the damage of someone else knowing it. You can hide the truth. You can have someone else tell the truth in such a way that it seems unbelievable. You can deny the truth and force someone else to prove the truth. All of these can be separate or they can be done all together to confuse anyone who is trying to find the truth.

So for me, I know a truth as the answer. I have only been able to prove it by using the logic that my brain is programed to use as a problem solving tool. I only have two equations to use that make sense to me. I need to be able to find a new tool that will work for all of the equations, that will result in the truth as the answer.

Whoever is in control of the secret, is using all of the tools available to keep it from the public. perhaps some of it has gotten out, and the one, or ones in control are doing everything in their power to contain it.

One of the questions that I constantly ask myself is: Why is this secret so important to keep secret? People keep secrets, because in their mind they feel that they will suffer if someone knows the secret. Think of all of the reasons that you keep secrets. What will happen if your secret gets out? Who does it effect?

So who does the secret of UFOs really effect? Will the entire population of the world come to a screeching halt if the secret gets out? I don't think so.

So I am left to believe that the one, or ones in control of the secret will lose something that they have. I am trying to think about what they have, that they believe is so important, that they feel that they can not loose it, and will stop at nothing to keep it.

Perhaps this is the part of the equation that we should be focusing on. Smile
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PostSubject: Logic   Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:05 pm

Gort,
The human mind has different layers and functions, the brain as the holder of that mind is full of secrets. Logic and verbal language dominates the left hemisphere and spacial relations; depth, geometry, abstract thinking is covered by the right side, the center communicates the two, the frontal lobe is advanced functions, below the cortex is the instinctual or animal brain- drives,instincts, reactions, basic needs.
The type of thinking that you mentioned the a+b = c
is the logic form the alternatives were stuidied by BF Skinner when he
repleced a nd b with stimulus and response and he could get an animal or person toi have differnt responses by changing how often the stimulus was introduced, the most effective- varible interval response, in other words with regard to the subject give them a piece of information every once in a whilke on a random basis and they will never give up.
This is what has been done to us - perhaps unintentionally or on purpose in prep for something..so we don't stop wanting the answers, we are driven to find them even though many are beyond our reach and others are buried in a box somewhere.
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