IMPORTANT PROLOGUE AND AN ASIDE: You are no idiot Jeremy. Never say that about yourself Jeremy.
It's simply not true. You seem very intelligent and bright and energetic.
You misread a single word.
I should have included hyperlinks to emphasize what I wished to communicate, I will now.
My Frodis Eye avatar says," Ain't no-thang" - OK?
Oh good.
I'm glad you're not offended - whew. Thanks. UFO Mag? The difference? Print media? Sorry, I do not have access to that publication. I flipped through one - 1988 or '90 or something at the airport in Buenos Aires - found it all coffee stained left on a plastic chair. Lotta people read that one magazine by it's look. Had something about Roswell in it as I recall.
Part way through the page was torn out never finished the article.
Hmmm, what's the difference? Suspect? Nah. Times are tough - especially in print - things change. Can't wait for (potentially) the ER-MD and the "religious groups" to come a callin' as Nancy intimated on your web-thing-cast that someone said (I paraphrase) "Will never be spoken of again " owing to whatever. No problem.
I liked that line it gave me a "good" smile and an explanation.
I'm reasonably happy no matter what when I find out something new though.
It's sort of exciting to learn... more since my wife passed and I'm getting over some of the sense of loss or dealing with it a bit better or... There's this physics Prof at York who uh... asked me out. Right out of the blue - never met her before just came up to me in the library and smiled... sorry Jeremy, I just got lost. Gives head a shake like the Unicorn in one version of Bladrunner. Don't get old if you can help it.
I actually have no idea about whatever UFO Mag chooses to do with columns or columnists and I can't read them anyhow. I'm sorta surprised you'd bring it up at all. It kinda doesn't seem necessary to discuss in relation to this thread to me but whatever. It's gotta be exceedingly difficult to keep going at all - worth the effort but really GD tough - UFO Mag is important.
I'd skip the "fith-columnists" - for "the fifth estate" - another joke.
Snaps-to and salutes with precision and meaning for the continued and future well-being of NB and BB's works.
Some elsewhere may not be exactly thrilled about what you've just mentioned in response though - it's not my issue at all. I'm not privy to the terms and it's not my business! It's biz. I'm just a consumer although I like to help. I don't need or want to know about all "that" biz-stuff. Shudders. Icky. Next.
Monetization is very, very important. I'd not like to see NB or BB get "merged or bought out" unless that's what they really need or really want to do or get swallowed-up by some other entity but who knows? It could work out really, really well for somebody(s) - maybe even "all". It wouldn't come as shock but more a sense of loss to me for NB and BB maybe if they got "ate" - it happens? Dunno. I wanna see them do great for themselves and others.
Fingers-crossed.
Just an observation from the wilderness but maybe alt-media is due for some consolidation and QoS and Q&A upgrades and some including myself "outside the biz" might consider that "good" or "not-so-good". I wouldn't know. Or maybe I didn't know. Ah, the state of "unknowing". Yeah. It takes money... that I do know.
Likely more all the time. I'd have to see what happens though y'know?. Wanna be a millionaire in publishing? Start with a billion. A joke.
The "ologists" of UFO/alt seem at "war" both internally and externally at times to some anyway. Beyond healthy competition. JMPO
It does damage "outside" not just "inside". "Cred" as in "credibility" is eroded and may or not be a renewable resource. Not to mention the field-day picnic for the "skeptologists" who'd choose to use that "disunity of purpose by whatever name" as they're own leverage. They'd use almost anything as one might use/misuse a weapon at times - rotters. Thoroughly scoundrels. JMPO again.
It shows at times; I really, really, really, really dislike "skeptologists" - I appreciate and understand the need for all of what authentic and honest skepticism can offer in validation and verification though. Some "skeptologists" and some "ologists" of UFO/alt sure seem like pretty mean SOBs at times - I don't like that at all. Too "reality-TV" - or maybe too Cro-Magnon level thought processes for me. Us 'n' them stuff. Sucks to be them I'd guess or I'm glad I'm not them or their family or something.
Shudders.
Just thinking "out-loud" Jeremy but maybe what you've chosen to disclose "could" raise an eyebrow for some, and could seem for some to play into a potentially perceived "conspiracy-sociopathy" relationship. I read about that in a great piece I read recently elsewhere.
That could fit for some. Meh, could be good, could be bad - I'll deal with it or I won't. Caveat-emptor - I'll wear a safety helmet, sign a waiver, wear my lucky-socks, etc.
Thank you for the information though Jeremy.
I don't really have any use for it or some need-to-know imperative 'bout such stuff. I'm quite sure you could tell me many things - some I could use, others? Maybe not-so-much useful at present - but one never knows. I appreciate the effort to continue this interchange with me at this time. Cool
ME TRYING TO BE FUNNY: I was ignorant of that fact you mentioned and now I am informed even if I don't really want to back-check your claim - I've been "put-on" before and this doesn't concern me - I wanna talk about those light-phenomenon in those clips (and other stuff). What that "stuff" might be - that's exciting. This is not... er, rather, why should I feel compelled to explain anything? Shoot, no one else does. Some even want people to pay to access "their proprietary special knowledge". LOL. I can't even get a straight answer on the Kecksburg co-ordinates. I don't actually feel the need to ask much anymore of anyone in particular.
No one gives a rat's-butt as near as I can tell to what anyone "not in the biz" thinks. LOL. Hoot!!!
So I don't discount you could be playing a friendly-prank.
That'd be OK.
I can take a good joke even at my own expense. You can characterize whatever as you please. I do like the "What would you do if" scenario it would seem you want me to consider and respond to for your reasons not immediately or acutely obvious to me.
MORE SERIOUS: I don't read UFO Magazine (not by choice) I'd like to though. Not one issue have I been able to purchase in a manner I am comfortable about. I've never seen it at the local bookstore I frequent. I sure as hell won't be asking for it by name out loud.
Please don't ask why OK?
Leave an old person a little privacy OK?
I'd love to have someone subscribe - actually purchase all the issues under all owners for the family library but it would seem (and I may be mistaken) that in the USA "they" may keep shipping and purchasing records (and library use records to boot) about that in your governments intrusions of privacy and may not ship in plain-brown wrappers. I like the US - just not it's government in some ways. I don't truly trust any aspect of the US gub'mint unless I can verify it's activities and claims. Sorry. I apologize if I've offended but that's the truth and I don't exactly care about, or for, US politics, or organized religions at all. Not that I wouldn't comply when compelled by US law to do so. There ARE many talented honorable folks in the US AND in your government. The US has had real journalists held without trial for years - I don't see nobody stateside bitchin' about that. Is Al-Jazeera available in the states on the tube? They are snapping up some pretty good journalists - puts most MSM "news" to shame. I guess it can't compete with dancing and contrived televised pseudo-contests in the race to LCD-numbness. Oops, rant. Sorry.
Yeah. For some people to have a UFO Magazine delivered could cause - awkward difficulties. That I do not need.
Especially when the Post puts it in your neighbors letter box.
Wink. Or worse... please don't ask about "worse" that'd take another 5000 words.
That it may not be in the best interests of some IRL but I can understand that your government is not my deal, nor should it be... I'm considering having a proxy-friend subscribe or purchase editions of UFO Mag up-to-date and add in yearly chunks.
Maybe. But with what you've just told me and what I've written in response (thanks again for listening
) I may come to feel potentially inhibited by proxy and association - I'll wait and see what happens.
Maybe not. I'm happy with whatever. I am prepared to be surprised in any event. I hope NB and BB do more great things in the future.
I wanna watch success happen!!! I'm rootin' for them.
Oh, and about the "ology" of UFO/alt/media - It's the possibility of "I'll scratch your back, if you scratch mine" arrangements within the "ologists" of the UFO community - no ethics are really mandated, nor accreditation and it's "self-regulating" or "self policing" so to speak. Lipservice and fire and brimstone declarations of quality are lost on me. Shoot, I remember when a handshake meant something too. LOL.
The "ology" of UFO/alt/media may even be considered by some a conspiracy of sorts - which is fine with me as I can't change a darn thing and some conspiracy to provide a truth not-yet-realized is AOK pour moi. There's "In"-ies and "out"-ies. Wooo... and exopolitics (less politics more "exo" please). Shudders. You folks "in-country" may not see it but others may. Me? Not my bag. Yeps and uh-huhs mean little. See:
"Conflicts of Interest" look for Self-Policing.
"Group-think" isn't good in my books. Self-determined individuals within disclosed, open and transparent associations in pursuit of the truth IS good. There's always risks.
Maybe that's why the research goes "almost nowhere" and is so damnable slow - dunno. Maybe not. 60 freakin' years - that's not good. Maybe that's why there's so much "in-fighting" within the "ologists" of UFO/alt? Dunno. Maybe that's how it's supposed to be in the designs of some? Dunno. Idle speculation - that accomplishes even less.
I wanna be looking and working on stuff with others more than care about the machinations of others. Like tracking down what the hell happened in Ottawa or chasing "bad-physics" in regard to "Die-Glocke" and later hypothetical devices. Oh and my favorite; hunting for "them" and those "us" who may be keeping us (Lenny and Lenora Public) ignorant of them. I can't prove "jack" but - they are soooo here.
It simply must be known by all at some point. I'd prefer sooner - I'm old.
I guess I'll see how much responding to a single post of yours (when I was trying to help and assist and stimulate conversation on a hypothetical) will cost me here? I kid, Jeremy.
Sorry, "I may have said the wrong thing".
Rocking boats don't go as fast.
Don't make waves.
I reckon at least a couple of hours trying "not to step on toes" yet have a friendly and collegial even empathetic interaction is worth it (sore hands or not) and I have, I suppose - it's difficult to compose as my fingers are a bit sore. I learn something new everyday though. That's what counts most for me at this time.
REALLY ICKY PART: My grandkid seems more correct every time I post where some "authoritative individual already in their niche and comfort zone" are concerned though. Not always.
She said it's happened to her on different forums over the years more than a few times - step "out of line" in any way and your name is mud. Then the "experts" post and , "tell one how it really is" (often bullies says she) then she says, one is ganged up on and... She told me too in her lingo, "Blow this pop-stand Grampy" days ago. Wants me to start my own private site. Noooo, no, not me. I don't want to do either... but hey, what's it truly matter? I'm tired. I make mistakes all the time.
What's one more? LOL. Money in the bank in one manner of thinking.
Mint. One less bell to answer. Grin. Great tune. Irony.
So I guess I should consider whether I really should have or have not been foolish/brave/audacious/normal/aberrant enough to interact "generically" with "people on the internet" once more and believe there would be no "negative price to pay" for participation in authenticity - "No good deed left unpunished". LOL.
I supppooooose there wasn't anything wrong or lacking with just browsing anyhow.
'Some potential merit in that approach. Loads THX - 1138 up on the deck monitor - gotta do something about my hands - 10 minutes.
Ah... relief - my hands in warm water in a basin for a minute or two.
. Heat rub - the pepper stuff. Ahhhh.
Hmmm. Gee, I'd thought I had something else to share. Oh well - I forget stuff all the time.
Thanks for the chat Jeremy and cheers, I hope I haven't hurt any more feelings or stepped on any more toes.
Sincerely,
Fixer
P.S. Added later. Is or has there ever been a yearly estimation of the gross revenues within UFO/alt/ media in the USA, or globally? How big is the pie? Who has the largest slice?