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PostSubject: The End Times   The End Times Icon_minitimeFri Mar 20, 2009 3:08 pm

This doesn't seem to fit into any of the other categories, so I placed it here. This message was channeled by me during June of 2003, as I recall, and it seemed interesting to me at the time... maybe a little more so now.

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The End Times

The ‘end times’ can be represented simply as three lines, one atop another.
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The ‘end times’ is more a collection of events than any one singular event. It represents the plans and schemes implemented by those wishing to elevate the level of the human populace to accept (read receive) a higher rate or frequency of information – heretofore called enlightenment.

It has always been about having humans receive more information – that may sound anticlimactic or bland, perhaps not that exciting really, but it really is no more complicated or complex than that.

The question then is why – what’s in it for those wishing to enable humans to receive more information?

1. TIMING

The issue with timing is one that keeps events within a narrow margin or window rather than a specific time. They, the events, are in flux, able to float as it were, manifesting within a general framework, being loosely associated with other events – interacting with each other, one with another.

Complexity in the arranging of events (i.e., how events are arranged) keeps people from seeing their orchestration first hand.

Those that orchestrate events are those same beings that orchestrated prior events - events spread throughout history, that is man’s history upon this planet. There again, the complexity involved is beyond your comprehension – that however does not mean it is beyond its existence.

Timing, as it pertains to the information that is being presented, refers to the timing of events orchestrated by those we refer to as the ‘orchestrators”. The term is rather generic, but serves as a basis or foundation for further discussion in this exposé.

Our discussion will cover or deal with five aspects of the end times, which by the way, in no way is meant to mean the end ‘of time’, or the end ‘of all time’ – it might be best to think of our use of the term ‘end times’ as the end game in one of a series of chess games. The games will continue, one after another.

The existence of the beings upon this planet has and will continue to be a major priority to those evolved in the development of the beings here. Yes, you are a part, an active part, of this ongoing development. You were born, and you will die being a part of this whether that appeals to you or not. Many things are out of, or not within the scope of your existence here. More things than you might care to know or acknowledge, actually.

But, that having been said, we are all about information – whether you care to entertain that information or not, is your own concern. You can only receive what is in your best interest (via your higher self) to receive. Simply put – you are not able to receive what your higher self does not authorize. Furthermore, your higher self will never put you in a position that would be detrimental to ‘self’. However, it will “always” place you in a position that forces you to grow – to continually grow – whether you want that or not. Either way, it is of no consequence to the higher self of ‘self’. You will grow according to the ‘intent’ of the ‘self’s’ higher self.

Intent is by far the most precise barometer of any being - determine their intent, and you will determine the underlying reasons for their actions.

This is a universal concept - one that all intelligent creatures seek to exploit

2. THE PLAN

The plan, or scheme at hand is the essence of what we refer to as the ‘end times’. The scheme is the result of the efforts that have been put forth from a vast number of beings; beings that are in a position to form and manipulate events that continue to transpire upon the earth. You might say that the earth is their laboratory – their experiment – they indeed are the gods of your world.

All creatures have gods; they in turn have gods that manipulate them, so on and so forth. Don’t be naive – this hierarchy that is invisible to your eyes, exists on a multitude of levels - throughout the universe.

The gods themselves have gods - where does it all end? Who knows - we don't - and even we are considered by some, ourselves included, quite advanced.

As we use the term gods, what we are really saying are those beings with intelligence greater than your own that are able to manipulate your genetic structure as well as your environment and those events that interact with your lives.

All creatures have gods; we ourselves have those that see to it that we follow a course that has been laid out before us - we are inquisitive creatures and those of a higher order than we have established beforehand those things, which we are to follow.

The universe does not stop with your gods alone, it is the formula that exists throughout creation. We are nothing if not creatures of information, and this plan that we speak of has been laid out in no small detail.

Of course we are not above misleading you to accomplish or task at hand – likewise, providing you with misinformation that results in your being brought to a point that is beneficial to both you and us is naturally to be expected. You, as you may or may not know, are continually being tricked and manipulated for all sorts of reasons – we simply bring it to your attention, thereby providing you with information

This plan that we speak of is a plan that entails the creation of a populace, a world of humans, able to vibrate to a new higher frequency.

That in a nutshell, is the plan.

How those responsible for the plan, plan to implement their plan, is really beyond the scope of this discussion - but we will say that it has been in existence for centuries, being executed 'day-by-day', over that period of time.

Needless to say, the intent of those seeing to it that the plan is executed, are soundly steadfast in their resolve.

3. THE PURPOSE

The purpose of the ‘end times’ plan is to increase the frequency of information received by all of the people living on your planet.

Outside of that statement, the purpose is to benefit those instituting the plan – all of those creatures that are involved in the scheme, benefit in no small way – it is in effect, their very lives that are on the line with this plan – hence their focus and resolve to see it successfully implemented.

You, whether you realize or not, are a natural resource - as you vibrate, as you emote, you give off energy. Other creatures, which you have been kept unaware of, in turn utilize this energy.

The energy that you derive from your eating a meal, other creatures derive from you vibrating to the frequency of your emotions.

Not all creatures eat food, as do you.

Have you ever wondered why you have emotions – not all creatures emote?

A father and son, maybe three years old or so, are walking outside and the son turns and asks the father why the grass is green and the sky is blue. Rather than having to explain the theory behind light refraction, photosynthesis and the like, which is surly beyond the child’s comprehension, the father thinks of something amusing to say to his son as they continue along their walk.

Is he a bad father? Of course not, the father simply knows that soon enough, in as little as four or five years perhaps, his son, by way of his primary education, will come to understand the reasons behind what makes the grass green and the sky blue.

No need to get into all of that now.

Likewise, our intent has never been to explain the minutia of all aspects of what it is that we choose to speak on – of course not. We simply provide the outline of information that is then integrated by the subconscious mind as it, the subconscious mind, sees fit.

We are always about information; others will take up where we leave off. Time reveals all things – the plan that we have spoken of, is a time intensive one.

A lot of existing dialogue regarding the end times is devoted to the so-called ‘new earth’. One way to create a new earth is to move the people, or a significant portion thereof, back to an earlier point in the earth’s history – in man’s history – as opposed to creating a new earth at this point in time, if that were indeed possible.

The effect word be the same, at least from the perspective of those so moved – would it not?

Civilizations throughout man’s history have been seeded in such a way. Civilizations come, and civilizations disappear – sometimes magically it seems.

What happened to the Maya? Where did the Egyptians come from? How did they simply sprout up – seemingly overnight?

All things are not possible, rather those things, which abide by the laws and precepts of the universe - they are indeed possible. Ignorance of those very laws and precepts, cause events, those events, which are neither understood nor imaginable, to appear as being magical, mystical or brought about by the hand of God.

You, for the most part, know that beings of a higher intelligence exist - you simply have no concept of how much higher.

4. EVENTS

The actual events and their place within the scheme of things is often the focus of dialogue regarding the end times, but the events themselves serve a much greater purpose for the orchestrators of these events.

“… don’t be so much concerned about the events, as finding your equilibrium within those events.”

The orchestrators of these events establish these events, these circumstances set on the world’s stage as it were, for their purpose at hand. The events carry within them a purpose, a definitive underlying objective that plays to the whole of the scheme at hand. That is meant to say that these events seen in a singular fashion are rather like steps leading up to a great structure – individual of course, but set out and established for the overall benefit of the structure.

Within these events, there is a definite direction to be found - these series of events all lead somewhere – with purpose these events unfold.

Ever see world events unfold as if they were leading somewhere – as if even those key participants are at a lose to know why they are so intricately involved – as if everybody is on ‘automatic pilot’; marching to the beat of the events themselves.

No? ...well, you will.

You see you - all of you - are tied irrevocably to world events, whether you like it or not. These world events are really plays, played out for your benefit, for the benefit of all of those who inhabit the world.

The energy of the world focuses on one small area, one small region that houses a vast amount of man’s prior history – why is that?

Why does the world focus on this one region?

In a word – ‘events’ – you are all tied to them, bound as it were by their place within your life, and the lives of all inhabitants of the earth, whether they are aware of it or not, for the powers that be, those governmental powers of the world, are very much aware of it; they all strategize on how they might play off of it.

It is indeed the world's stage - and it has already begun, one act upon another.

5. THE OUTCOME

It is 'the outcome' then that everybody wants to know - how it all resolves itself.

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PostSubject: Re: The End Times   The End Times Icon_minitimeWed Apr 08, 2009 4:45 pm

This is pure speculation on my part - but I think the end times has to do with the point at which extraterrestrials become more widely known, and accepted in our culture.

In other words, the end, intellectually at least, to our isolation from the rest of the universe.

Akin, if you will, to the revelation that the world was not really the center of the universe… but in this case, a lot more important to our worldview or philosophical framework.

Theology may have a problem with this – but then, it has always had a problem with any monumental shift of a current paradigm, breakthroughs or revelations in science, and the like, throughout history.

Just a thought.

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PostSubject: Re: The End Times   The End Times Icon_minitimeFri Apr 10, 2009 3:12 pm

I find it odd that they are all about information when this has been dubbed "The Information Age." "They" always seem to be about whatever the latest buzz words are. Matrix, information, frequency - We see through the lens of technological advances and, miraculously, so does the universe. When we saw through the lens of religion, miraculously, so did the universe.

See a pattern here?

Why can't they give you any concrete events? Why say "Don't worry about the events...." Of course not! That would be a yardstick by which we may better judge this crucial information. If they aren't going to give us that then why should we believe any of the generalizations that make up the rest of this monologue?

All of this is religion. Don't ask for anything concrete, just believe. It is for the higher good, after all, which you humans cannot understand. Okay, cool. Then shut up. Don't tease us with what we'll never know. If we're going to vibrate on out of our skins, that will happen regardless of the half-assed explanation, right? So get to it. Less talkie, more transcendie.

Those who transcend, transcend. Those who burn off, burn off. Not only can we not do anything about it, you can't even explain it to us! You're useless as overlords!

Please, tell them that next time they channel through you. I'd love to hear the response.
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PostSubject: The End Times   The End Times Icon_minitimeFri Apr 10, 2009 3:59 pm

Jeremy Vaeni "Quote": ""Why can't they give you any concrete events? ""

Exactly, why does it always seem to be so damn abstract? Not just what I have channeled, over the last 15 years or so, but what I have read by others, as well.

I channeled The End Times in June of 2003 or so, and really haven’t paid much attention to it, until now. For what it’s worth, I choose neither to believe nor disbelieve what I channel, but rather remain neutral, seeing it only as information from a source which I cannot say, with any degree of certainty.

But you are absolutely right here, Jeremy, I've been thinking about this very same thing, over the past few days.

One thing I can say, is that reading The End Times again this week, through the lens of it being about the world as a whole, coming to terms with the alien/extraterrestrial phenomena, has changed how I now perceive it... but this is simply speculation on my part, and I entertain it only as a possibility; one among many others.

Having the alien/extraterrestrial phenomena widely acknowledged within our culture, means that everyone’s worldview or philosophical framework would be changed completely, overnight...and what might the ramifications be of that scenario?

Is seems to me now, as I re-read The End Times, that a lot of information was given, except for the final, and most important piece to the puzzle.

Could that be the enlightenment of the world with regard to the alien/extraterrestrial phenomena?

Perhaps, this is the time to pull back the curtain, and see the wizard... certainly, time will tell.

Cheers,
Jocariah

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PostSubject: Re: The End Times   The End Times Icon_minitimeFri Apr 10, 2009 5:35 pm

Is it something you can ask them? Is channeling a two-way street or is it information coming in only?

And what does it feel like? How do you differentiate that from your own unconscious voice?
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PostSubject: Re: The End Times   The End Times Icon_minitimeFri Apr 10, 2009 6:34 pm

Jeremy Vaeni "Quote"...Is it something you can ask them? Is channeling a two-way street or is it information coming in only?

Channeling is not something I seek out, but rather something that seeks me out.

As far a being a two-way street, that’s funny to me. They (whomever they are) tell me what I am to hear, or have me write, or speak out into a digital recorder, what I am to know. The thought occurs to me now, as I write this out, that it may actually be my higher self, or the collective unconscious, or some combination of the two.

I also find myself up in the middle of the night, on many occasions, speaking a language with which I am not familiar. It seems, this unfamiliar language comes from my belly, not my head.

Q.) What do you ask a creature of a higher order - A.) nothing, they already know what you’re thinking, they already know what you're about to say, and irregardless, they will only tell you what ‘they’ want you to hear…period. Even if a question happens to pop into your head, chances are, they put it there, so as to ‘act out’ the illusion of some sort of rapport with them, and you, for your benefit, alone. They can even provide you with an overwhelming feeling of love ... so should we trust our feelings? Must I answer that? We, as humans, are so easily deceived.

Actually, I could care less about any of this – but that not withstanding, here I am. In a way, that’s
very funny to me, because I see myself as being way too practical for any of this. But there again, here I am.

Jeremy Vaeni "Quote"..And what does it feel like?

Feels uncomfortable, like I have too much energy in me for what I am doing.

It seems I choose the spelling and sentence structure – not the words or the cadence… and I can go back and forth over it agian and again because something seems wrong with it, only to end up changing an ‘and’ to and ‘or’. This is done. I imagine, to get it imbedded into my subconscious mind, so that I can understand it better.

One thing they understand, which we, for the most part don't, is the subconscious mind, and its workings.

Jeremy Vaeni "quote"..How do you differentiate that from your own unconscious voice?

If this stuff is really in my own unconscious/subconscious, so be it. I really don’t think or speak the way I channel, or maybe I do. More and more, of late, it seems that I find myself thinking in a whole different manner. So what is me, and what is them? Who can say.

All I know, is that this is my normal … not everyone’s, of course, but it is mine.

Thanks, Jeremy, for your questions, it gets me thinking in ways that I might never have, on my own.

My real curiosity here, is whether or not other Contactees are like me - but I think I may already know the answer to that one ... we (Contactees) are all unique and individual. No two of us are alike. Similarities, perhaps, but we are all different.

The only other thing I feel right now, is an overwhelming sense of sadness brought about by an awareness of all of the pain borne (within the Contactee process) by all those who are Contactees... perhaps it is a good pain though. The kind of pain that forces one to grow as a spiritual human being ... which is what we all are, actually ... whether we are Contactees or not. Because in truth, you can't separate our spiritual from our humanness - and vice versa.

Perhaps those aliens, those extraterrestrials, those creatures of a higher order are, among other things, helping us connect our humanness to our spiritual selves. Bridging the gap as it were, and making us whole, as we once were, and as the universe intended us to be all along.

One thing that Contactees have that non-Contactees don’t, is a keen firsthand awareness that creatures of a higher order actually exist. Contactees, know, firsthand, this for a fact, whereas non-Contactees may intellectually entertain this concept, Contactees have lived it out. And in so doing, they/we have had to integrate this concept, this truth, this reality into our daily lives, inexorably changing our worldview, our philosophical framework, as it were.

In short, we’ve lived it, where others might scarcely have imagined it possible … and that of course, makes all the difference in the world.

Cheers
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PostSubject: Re: The End Times   The End Times Icon_minitimeSat Apr 11, 2009 12:10 pm

There is a misconception that Aliens/Extraterrestrials
are somehow entering our world, when the reality is, we've
been naively living in 'theirs'.

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PostSubject: Re: The End Times   The End Times Icon_minitimeSat Apr 11, 2009 5:54 pm

Do you think it's important to figure out whether you're deceiving yourself or an outside agency is actually speaking through you?

If it is an outside agency and you don't quite trust it, do you feel like a pawn? If so, why not just stop going public with messages?
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PostSubject: Re: The End Times   The End Times Icon_minitimeSat Apr 11, 2009 6:36 pm

Jeremy Vaeni "Quote"...""If it is an outside agency and you don't quite trust it, do you feel like a pawn? If so, why not just stop going public with messages?"'

Although I understand its meaning, trust is not a word within my vocabulary.

If I hadn't published it here, you and I would not be having this particular discussion. And our discussion has shown me things that I may never have seen otherwise.

Perhaps you too, have taken something from our discussions.

We are all pawns, whether we know it or not – those creatures of a higher order, our higher self or the collective unconscious, all doing their part as our puppet masters. Manipulating us as they see fit, unseen and unheard, for the most part. Is this not as it should be?

These channeled messages are what they are - just so many words on a page - the writer writes and the reader reads. What difference does it make how the words came to be on the page? Either the words ring true to the reader, or they don’t. In either case, it is the reader who decides, it is the reader who does with the words as ‘he’ chooses – and that is as it should be.

It is the reader, who brings life to the words written. Without the reader, what good are the words? Words are written to be read.

It is our worldview or philosophical framework that rides shotgun over our thought process. And it is our thought process, which most separates us from creatures of a higher order, not our intellect. Although creatures of a higher order have a greater intellect than we. For we choose of the individual components which make up our worldview, each and every day – day in, and day out, as we live our lives. These individual components are then utilized to frame our worldview, and decide what is and is not possible, based upon our worldview of reality. But this reality, is ours ALONE – not reality as it truly exists within the universe – for each of us sees only that reality which we have constructed, by way of our worldview.

So rather than always trying to decide between belief and disbelief, perhaps it is best to remain neutral and think instead of merely whether something is of interest or not. If it is of interest, entertain it – if not, then don’t. And lastly, give yourself permission to entertain what is of interest without having to classifying it with belief or disbelief. After all, you are responsible for your thought process, that is, unless you decide to turn over that responsibility to someone else, to some preexisting cultural guidelines or group think.

Who decides how you think?

Cheers,
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PostSubject: Re: The End Times   The End Times Icon_minitimeSat Apr 11, 2009 9:29 pm

We are all pawns, whether we know it or not – those creatures of a higher order, our higher self or the collective unconscious, all doing their part as our puppet masters. Manipulating us as they see fit, unseen and unheard, for the most part. Is this not as it should be?

No. Not for me. I'm not a big fan of living my life as the manipulated thing of the self-proclaimed "higher."

It is our worldview or philosophical framework that rides shotgun over our thought process. And it is our thought process, which most separates us from creatures of a higher order, not our intellect. Although creatures of a higher order have a greater intellect than we.

Too many assumptions here; too much taken for granted as to what human nature is. I also doubt that higher creatures have a higher intellect. For instance, I don't believe that at this point in human history an alien race couldn't explain logically to the Einstein of our day how laws of physics work, or how their ships work. If there were something that couldn't be explained, such a creature could explain why it is that we cannot understand it so that it makes rational sense to us.

So intellect is not the thing that makes "higher" higher. The dilemma with us must be one that transcends (and includes) rationality, not something that is purely rational. If true, then the answer won't live in us as thought. It may be explained and comprehended via thought but ultimately it must be a state that exists when thought doesn't. It must be adopted, if you will, as our new point of view. It must be lived not by us but as us.

And from this new "higher" us, thought would flow. It would no longer be an ideal we think about, but the actual entity thinking. And so for me, channeling is more noise to keep us from that fundamental truth: the higher is us. There are no puppet masters, really, that we don't allow for in a sort of sadomasochistic blocking of this truth. Why would we want to block it? Because the self wants to exist and by definition it has to die to truth for any of this to come to pass. It would deny god to be god.

You deny god to be god.

I deny god to be god.

Nothing secular, mind you. No bible-thumping here, that's more noise for the holiday.

If we are ever to get beyond our own man-made answers, we have to stop making them. Throw them all away. By definition. I mean this is all self-evident, right? If you want to know what truth is you have to stop saying what it is because what you're saying is not it. (Not you, personally, I mean all of us. Including this very post. Chuck it. Chuck it all and see what's there.)
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PostSubject: Re: The End Times   The End Times Icon_minitimeSun Apr 12, 2009 7:28 am

Hi Jeremy,

An interesting read - thanks for taking the time to comment.

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PostSubject: Re: The End Times   The End Times Icon_minitimeThu May 14, 2009 3:21 pm

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The End Times are a collection of events. Events that will force people to rethink their belief systems. How this will happen has, at this point in time, been set into motion already.

There are three phases to all of this.

FIRST: The economic conditions within the western world will rapidly deteriorate starting in November of 2009

SECOND: Wild Fires will escalate in the Western United States to the point that these fires seem totally absurd in their scope.

THIRD: A ‘New Order’ will be discussed as an option to ‘save’ the world. This New Order will be similar to the European Union and will be touted as the economic salvation of the world.

When all of the above come together or converge - the End Times has begun in earnest.

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PostSubject: Re: The End Times   The End Times Icon_minitimeSun May 17, 2009 4:52 pm

I love that you end your posts about the end times with the word "cheers."

So if those three things don't happen, what then? No end times or do you just keep pushing the date back?
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PostSubject: Re: The End Times   The End Times Icon_minitimeSun May 17, 2009 6:46 pm

""I love that you end your posts about the end times with the word "cheers."

So if those three things don't happen, what then? No end times or do you just keep pushing the date back?""


Time will tell.

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PostSubject: 2012, The End Times, End of Days, End of Time, etc   The End Times Icon_minitimeSat May 30, 2009 10:53 am

RE: 2012, The End Times, End of Days, End of Time, etc

2012, The End Times, End of Days, End of Time, etc., have been spoken about and eluded to over the centuries by many cultures. But this is simply the time when extraterrestrials are irrefutably introduced to the general population, the ‘end times’ of our isolation from the rest of the universe. It’s not the end of the world – just the end of the world as we’ve come to know it, a world lacking in the knowledge of extraterrestrials and our place within the universe.

From that point forward, everything changes. Although it may not seem all that significant an event, the social and political implications here are both monumental and far-reaching. In one fell swoop it forces all of us to change our worldview or philosophical framework, and face the fact that we are no longer the dominant species that we once thought we were.

So in that regard, it really is the ‘end of days’, of which the prophets spoke.

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PostSubject: Re: The End Times   The End Times Icon_minitimeSat May 30, 2009 4:39 pm

Christianity also speaks of the end times ... Jesus warned that many would be deceived during those days...right before his return.

I always wondered if it would be the aliens/ET's who were showing up deceiving the world.


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PostSubject: Re: The End Times   The End Times Icon_minitimeSat Apr 17, 2010 10:47 am

The "end times" is a term that should be tossed out; it was created by christianity and is not necessarily accurate. The picture has nothing to do with anything except an intervention from above at the time of some catastrophic disaster; a disaster which could be terrestrial in nature or cosmic. The picture doesn't go any further than that. In any of the scenarios that have played out on earth, all we had to know was that if "they" showed up - there was a reason - and it wasn't good. Other than that, we are on our own.
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