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PostSubject: REVEALED...   Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:38 pm

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The end time is all about the human populous – that is to say, it is human driven.

The end times are not about world events per se – although world events play a part in the end times. The end times are not about aliens, although aliens play a significant role in the process. The end times are not about raising the consciousness of the human populous – although the consciousness of the human populous will be raised. The end times IS about changing the frequency at which humans generate their base frequency.

What was once keep secret will now become open – what was once kept hidden will now become revealed.

The base frequency has been, as designed, all about fear.

Fear is the driving human force, or frequency, and this is how it was always intended to be.

Now, there are those that are wanting to chance this base frequency that fear is, and has been, to another frequency called enlightenment. Enlightenment is simply another name for ‘information bearing’. So one could say that humans are being changed from a fear-based frequency to one that is information bearing. But, that being said, we, those of us involved in this scheme, prefer the term enlightenment over information bearing, as it more encapsulates the entire project at hand.

Let us be very clear here, we do this because it benefits us and countless others as well, in no small way.

How is it then, that one can change the entire human populous from a fear-based frequency to one that is information-based?

And perhaps as importantly, why?

To understand all of this one most first understand one’s makers, or keepers. You see those creatures which created humans via genetic manipulation, and breeding, did so to serve their specific purpose.

And what might that purpose be?

Well, simply put, all humans vibrate to an underlying frequency of fear. This frequency, associated in humans with the emotion of fear, feeds those creatures of a higher order as simply as food feeds all humans on this planet.

Humans radiate the underlying frequency of fear at all times. Whether perceived by them or not, humans continually radiate this fear frequency.

Humans, essentially, are frequency generating biological machines, which just so happen to vibrate to the emotion which they know of as fear, but this is, in reality, simply a frequency which they were designed to vibrate to. And in so doing, feed those creatures of a higher order which designed them.

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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:25 pm

I've said it before . I really don't think we are fear food for aliens !
I agree with all the raising of vibrations bit but i do not consider us to be essentially factory produce .
Perhaps your makers are different from mine ?

I understand that the population can be manipulated through fear based propoganda , and that it is a possibility that the agents behind such propaganda may be of alien origins . However , for me , these beings are not our creators .

Anyway , i think you know that Wink
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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:48 pm

The following, as well as my initial post was channeled - and continues here:

Those creatures of a higher order who designed humans to vibrate to this frequency, which best serves them, knew a time would come when those of us coming after, would work toward changing the frequency to which humans vibrate. This was expected on their part, and indeed, they have seeded other civilizations in a similar way so that as we change the frequency of human vibrations to an information-based frequency, they would have other sources on which to rely.

You see that’s how these things work – those that create know that others will follow so that all are served in the ongoing process of creation – as indeed, creation is fully an ongoing process.

So then, we through our efforts, plan to change the frequency at which you vibrate to one that is information-based. This enlightenment frequency best serves us, and in the process, you are enlightened, by way of the frequency of information, to vibrate in such a way as to benefit you in the continual growth as a species.

You could say, that everyone wins, and indeed, even the original creators benefit as they too must continually seed other civilizations in order to continue the process.

Do you really think civilizations are seeded without an underlying purpose? Creatures of a higher order don’t simply go out and create without a specific purpose in mind. They don’t create for the joy of it, or because it’s fun. They have specific agendas and objectives in mind, which are critical to their survival. But as you start to think this all through, you may perhaps begin to see that there is an even larger hand at work in all of this. This larger hand, as we have referred to it, is whom we call prime creator. We surmised the existence of prime creator based upon probabilities, rather than having any direct interaction with prime creator.

This may seem somewhat complex, but the universe functions in such way, as it all feeds back upon itself, continually, time and again. One part serving the other, so on and so forth, over and over again – continually in flux, continually in a state of change and metamorphoses.

Your service to us then, is that soon all humans will vibrate to this new frequency and as you do, you will experience many benefits as a civilization. Information breeds advancement - advancement breeds new information, via the universe, and on and on it goes.

You see, the universe is all about information, and now is your time at hand to connect with it. As proof that you need connected, think about how civilization is always searching for answers to its existence – if you were connected, this would not be the case.

Your connection is eminent – the end times really is about the end of the old and the beginning of the new… nothing more.

A new frequency with which to vibrate
A new relationship with the frequency of information
A new relationship with the universe that not only fills the outside, but your insides as well.

You are connected irrevocably to the universe – whether you are aware of this connection or not. Take some time to stand under the stars and quietly say to yourself; ‘this all exists within me, as well’

And take this time to ponder how the very chromosomes within your body are based on the genetic energy that exists throughout the universe.

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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:46 pm

Put that way , makes more sense to me .
Channeling is a very interesting subject . Many people consider that "Channeling " is the result of an individual submitting to a higher or perhaps external influence .

I would suggest that this is the result of contacting ourselves !

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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:03 pm

Jocariah, are you now saying you are channeling messages after stating you did a while back and coming here to claim you were only doing so for research?

I do not mean to be derogatory in any way, but what is it, either you can channel or you are pulling our legs again.

I am one who requires extraordinary proof to such claims, so it does not bother me too much. I just think you need to explain a bit before I take you seriously again.
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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:18 pm

Well i missed all the previous stuff between you guys . But i would say that we are all able to channel . If channeling is contacting yourself !


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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:27 pm

Part 3

Nothing exists by chance – even evolution, that is, a creature’s inherent ability to evolve, was coded into, or designed into its genetic structure. The genetic structure of both plants and animals (and of course humans as well) was created with evolution, or the ability to evolve, in mind. But evolution alone cannot come close to explaining man’s evolution on this planet. There have been, and continues to be, significant intervention from creatures of a higher order, throughout man’s history. This intervention was designed to shepherd man along certain lines, at significant stages in his evolution. And yet again, another significant stage is upon him at this point in time, at this point in man’s history; the end times.

Rather than being the end, it is in actuality the beginning - the beginning of an entirely new stage in man’s history. One in which man begins to operate with an entirely new operating system – an entirely new code, if you will.

The end times is the end of the old man, and the beginning of the new man – a creature based on enlightenment.

Man’s history is in reality, interdependent, or codependent with this planet, this solar system, this galaxy, and of course, this universe. As we stated before, the universe folds back upon itself and this solar system is interlinked with other solar systems, and with other galaxies, as well. This is actually far too complex of a topic to dissertate here, but rather it is mentioned so that one may begin to assemble an overview of sorts.

We are creatures of a higher order, but there are countless other creatures of a higher order as well, all interacting with the inhabitants of this planet. Your planet is more than a zoo; it is a valuable resource that stores countless variations of both plants and animals. Genetics is of course at the heart of all of this, and genetic variations abound upon this planet, this storehouse of all things genetic.

This planet is a living organism, coexisting with its inhabitants.

One need only look around to see the abundance of genetic variations – in humans, as well. For all things genetic have at their root, the handiwork of the gods, those creatures of a higher order which prior civilization have deemed gods. But gods or creatures of a higher order, it is no matter, for the same result is evident to anyone who would look closely. This abundance with which you coexist was all placed here for a reason. The earth is a storehouse of genetic structure – a storehouse that lives and breathes and multiples, all based on that genetic structure.

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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:34 pm

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There's a story that's told, of a fire that's burning
The time is at hand, there's a change in the wind
There's a river that flows, a generation that's comming
It's about to unfold, and we're about to begin

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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:11 am

Jocariah wrote:

Humans, essentially, are frequency generating biological machines, which just so happen to vibrate to the emotion which they know of as fear, but this is, in reality, simply a frequency which they were designed to vibrate to. And in so doing, feed those creatures of a higher order which designed them.

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So I guess the idea of a triune brain is out the window? We are what we are because of the component parts from which we were made. Fear is from the lowest level of this 3-part brain system which has developed over time.


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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:21 am

Part 4

Genetics is nothing if not predicable. It propagates throughout the world seemingly of its own accord. But this characteristic or inherent trait was designed into its very system. There is also a framework present which allows the inherent genetics involved to follow the imbedded programs. This framework, or matrix, is present throughout the universe – as is genetic material.

So then, the predictability of genetics is based on its underlying system, or framework. As one studies this system it becomes apparent, evident that evolution is not random, but closely adheres to this framework, that is to say, it follows a predetermined direction. This framework is a standard throughout the universe so that the natural evolution of creatures, all genetically-based organisms, is a constant – a constant that can be predicted with a great degree of accuracy, by those so inclined, and so able.

Creators create – that’s what they do. Creators create with material with which they are familiar. Genetic material is the stuff of the universe – not just the earth. And creators familiar with genetic material create using genetic material.

Within their creations are timing mechanisms. They are clocks based on, as in your case, the earth’s rotation around the sun. These timing mechanisms control much more than the life cycle of the individual biological system – they control hormones, for one, and delivery of all types of information, for another.

Humans are in actuality, sun people. Their internal clocks, if you will, are controlled in large part by the sun. Although the earth supplies the stuff of life, nourishment, it is the sun which controls all of your various rhythms. Within sunlight, as within the light of fiber optics, information is transmitted. The complexity of this it far greater than one could imagine – there exists no so-called junk DNA.

So why all of the attention to humans?

What attention, one might ask.

Humans represent, as stated previously, a storehouse of things genetically-based. There again, the so called junk DNA is not, Dormant, yes, underutilized, yes, not readily discernable as having a functional path to the rest of the biological system…yes, again.

Hopefully, now you can start to see our use of the term ‘storehouse’.

And here is a critical component At this point of our discussion. Humans do not serve one purpose, but many, for many have come after the original creators to influence and interject their schemes and programs upon human subjects, so that many facets, many plans and schemes are in continual play.

To what extent, who can say, we are aware of our part and those aspects which influence our part – and such is the case with others as well. They are interest, primarily, in their part, along with other related aspects which influence their part as well.

So then, what of the human spirituality – of course that is a facet, which some creatures of a higher order pursue.

On and on this continues so that one may start to see that humans are a resource which must be cared for, respected and maintained at all cost.

This is a good point to interject that you are more, much more than the human body. You inhabit the human body, and do so as an experience to be experienced and added to your collection of experiences. You are on planet, at this particular point in time for a reason. For your own particular reason, as well as the greater, multi-faceted reasons which exist - of which you are a part. Please respect your role in all of this, as you view your existence from a higher consciousness, or level of existence.

What about population, over-population, the earth, the earth’s place in the galaxy and in the universe in a much wider overview, so on and so forth.

These things are all interrelated, all interconnected, all aspects and facets of various schemes that continually move forward.

See, change is a contestant – evolution is the underlying fabric of the universe, and as such the game, and we consider it a game, continues to change with each participant constantly jockeying for position on a grand (from the human perspective) scale.

It really is all about genetics.

At least you should understand that, in part, at this point.

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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:02 am

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On and on this continues so that one may start to see that humans are a resourse which must be cared for, respected and maintained at all cost.

While on some level I would tend to agree with some of the ideas mentioned, if genetic manipulation was part of the picture, the overall idea would develop from something found and manipulated that had developed on its own. The extinctions of species in our history presents a counter argument to being "maintained at all cost." The Clovis culture, representing one human extinction level, shows that this picture needs fine tuning. On a greater scale, the genetic bottle-neck created by the Toba super-volcano eruption seems to show a drop in the human population from ABOUT one million to roughly 35,000 people. No one from "up there" has stopped the wars on this planet, and never intervened in the testing or dropping of atomic weapons. We are being left to our own devices, and seemingly those who can figure out the puzzle will fair better than the rest. We are not being cared for - we are being left to our own devices.
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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:41 am

Hi onlychild, as well as others who have replied here - thank you.

I feel that perhaps this is the point at which I should clarify my position in all of this, and channeling in particular. I am impatient by natutre and typically terse in my replies, so please forgive me this, in advance. But as they say, I am what I am. Very Happy

1. There is no point in trying to debate me on any of this because unlike many others (who channel) I don’t necessarily ‘buy into’ this simply because I channeled it. Why would I?

2. I tend not to think in terms of right or wrong (dualistic thinking) so I don’t really care if any of this is true or not, and, with all due respect, you can think of it as you choose, too – I have no vested interest to get anyone to buy into any of this, nor ague as to its validity. Entertain it (or not) as you see fit. Please use common (or uncommon) sense, as well. I often find myself saying, okay, lets see how this information plays out over time - no need to conclude antyhing right away.

3. However, having said all that, I do think in terms of whether or not something appears interesting to me – if it does seem interesting, I entertain it, and if not I don’t.

4. Although this appears interesting to me, I don’t judge it or file it away into the typical good, no good files that humans are known for… once again, I prefer not to judge it, outside of whether or not it appears interesting.

5. Personally, I think the possibility exists that misinformation is part and parcel of all information channeled – and that this misinformation, is on purpose, and serves a purpose of some sort. Related to the subconcious mind, is my guess.

6. Lastly, I have channeled since I could write, literally, I am a Contactee, and yes, I have seen and interacted with creatures of a higher order in the past.

Which leads me to another thought; one does NOT interact with creatures of a higher order – they interact with you. Although they can make it seem as if it might be an ‘I ask – you tell’ interaction, it never is. THEY tell you what THEY want you to know - nothing more, or less. They don't waste energy, and I think that if I am to know something they want me to know, then I will - if not, I won't...so whay ask. They (mostly) control your thoughts, questions and direction of all apparent interactions. So whenever the question arises, ""what would you say to a creature of a higher order""?, I laugh, because, the real answer is nothing, just listen – they already control both sides of the equation (they know your thoughts). This actually represents another human thought or thought process, that does NOT apply in this situation. As you get more into this, you start to see that in fact, more and more of our 'traditional' thought processes (as well as social/societal/cultural rituals) do not apply when considering creatures of a higher order. We all have an intelectual ceiling -whether you know it or not- and theirs is MUCH greater, so deal with it.

Hopes this helps, it is meant sincerly.

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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:23 pm

OK ...
Let's play a game called: Let's take this apart. YAY cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers

I find it interesting that you would be "given" information, while on the other hand I had to "search" for information based on "clues." This is as diametrically opposed a picture as you can get, and the question that forms would be somewhere along the lines of - WTF? scratch

My first inquiry would be: Would you please explain the process by which this information comes in.

Allow me to explain my process: A "single" piece of information would pop up that I either woke up with, or, had a light-bulb moment about, or - whatever, that I had to connect to the overall picture I had been working on. The very first piece of information (that by itself was useless) came popping into my head at about 5 years old and presented a picture that said: The Catholic Church is wrong. This was about 1955, and it came the day after the "lit-up bedroom event" with about five small beings popping up in my room. I can look at that statement today and it makes perfect sense, as I now know the history behind all of the religious beliefs today. But had I not kept that thought and searched later in my life, it would have fallen by the wayside and that would have been the end of that. Add part two to this, something pounding in my head as I woke up that said: "The alien connection," I would not have searched out a subject which at that time I did not know even existed.

My take on this is: "IF SOMEONE HAS SOMETHING TO SAY, WHY DON'T THEY JUST SAY IT ?!?!?!

YOU, on the other hand, say you get information freely. So I would like to know more about the HOW'S of this experience, and then the WHAT'S. Basketball

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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:54 pm

onlychild wrote:

OK ...
Let's play a game called: Let's take this apart. YAY

I find it interesting that you would be "given" information, while on the other hand I had to "search" for information based on "clues." This is as diametrically opposed a picture as you can get, and the question that forms would be somewhere along the lines of - WTF?



Yeah, this is very funny to me - I think they could have chosen a better candidate, as well. Our relationship has been feisty and they wrecked my Jeep on one occasion to get my attention (I was driving it and arguing with them about something, lots of MF's and FU's as I recall, and I TOTALLY blanked out for a few seconds and BAM, into a stopped car in traffic) - point made, as they say, now I don't go there, ever.

All I can say, in all sincerity, it that each of us has our own path to follow - mine has been an overwhelming one at times, especially being taken at night and programmed at a young age, dropped off just in time to go to school the next day - tired, burnt out, etc. - it was very difficult. And it has been contentious and feisty, as mentioned before; I have a temper, as well as being a smart-ass.

So yeah, I can imagine better, more willing and educated candidates - but here I am.

I don't really 'seek out' any of this, it seeks me out.

I there is something I want to know, I figure it will be shown to me, if not, I was not meant to know it. I have been writing journal on astrophysics, thought, time, gravity, genetics and so on for over forty years - all channeled, of course. Every so often I throw the journals away - but it sure has been a lot of information. To my way of thinking, I think I was programmed (subconsciously) then as I channel the subconscious information meets the conscious mind as I read and correct the typos of the channeled info. I could be way off on this though - hell, who really knows, right?

It works for me, actually - and to be honest, it amazes me that people actually seek this stuff out. I am here typing this out now simply because I know from experience, it will be less painful in the long run, than not doing it.

The sun's out - work is slow, and I'd rather be on the motorcycle.. Very Happy

Hope this helps.
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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:09 pm

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onlychild wrote:

I find it interesting that you would be "given" information, while on the other hand I had to "search" for information based on "clues." This is as diametrically opposed a picture as you can get, and the question that forms would be somewhere along the lines of - WTF?



Yeah, this is very funny to me - I think they could have chosen a better candidate, as well. Our relationship has been feisty and they wrecked my Jeep on one occasion to get my attention (I was driving it and arguing with them about something, lots of MF's and FU's as I recall, and I TOTALLY blanked out for a few seconds and BAM, into a stopped car in traffic) - point made, as they say, now I don't go there, ever.
Don't think I am trying to be offensive here, because I'm not.

OK, based on what you said above, what do you think are the chances that this is psychosis / you are hearing things? One way it could be proven is to have your "technical" information looked at by someone in that particular field. Is it possible that at an early age you had a brain injury? I ask because in my 55 year reevaluation of everything, I had to take that exact picture into consideration - 4 times. The first one was at about 6 years old, and my first experience was around that time as well. Based on the picture, that event was real, and not a result of the head rap I got in a car crash at that young age.

The idea here is that everyone who claims "contact" and gets "information" needs to prove that information is real. If, after everything I have been through, someone proves me wrong - I still win. Why? I'M FREE. But to date no one will challenge what I have to say, so, I'm still around.

All data must be verified because we are in the middle of Sh*t City with more beliefs being propounded than I can keep up with. There can be only one truth - what is it? As far as I am concerned, something not very nice is coming, because history shows that "they" only stick their nose in our picture when a cataclysmic event is coming. "They" have been knocking on our door since 1942. Someone needs to answer the door.

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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:54 pm

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Jocariah wrote:
onlychild wrote:

I find it interesting that you would be "given" information, while on the other hand I had to "search" for information based on "clues." This is as diametrically opposed a picture as you can get, and the question that forms would be somewhere along the lines of - WTF?



Yeah, this is very funny to me - I think they could have chosen a better candidate, as well. Our relationship has been feisty and they wrecked my Jeep on one occasion to get my attention (I was driving it and arguing with them about something, lots of MF's and FU's as I recall, and I TOTALLY blanked out for a few seconds and BAM, into a stopped car in traffic) - point made, as they say, now I don't go there, ever.
Don't think I am trying to be offensive here, because I'm not.

OK, based on what you said above, what do you think are the chances that this is psychosis / you are hearing things? One way it could be proven is to have your "technical" information looked at by someone in that particular field. Is it possible that at an early age you had a brain injury? I ask because in my 55 year reevaluation of everything, I had to take that exact picture into consideration - 4 times. The first one was at about 6 years old, and my first experience was around that time as well. Based on the picture, that event was real, and not a result of the head rap I got in a car crash at that young age.

The idea here is that everyone who claims "contact" and gets "information" needs to prove that information is real. If, after everything I have been through, someone proves me wrong - I still win. Why? I'M FREE. But to date no one will challenge what I have to say, so, I'm still around.

All data must be verified because we are in the middle of Sh*t City with more beliefs being propounded than I can keep up with. There can be only one truth - what is it? As far as I am concerned, something not very nice is coming, because history shows that "they" only stick their nose in our picture when a cataclysmic event is coming. "They" have been knocking on our door since 1942. Someone needs to answer the door.


No offense taken.

Psychosis? Well, I guess anything is possible (so long as it adheres to the laws and precepts of the universe).

If you are really interested in Contactees, read both of John Mack’s books, a Harvard professor that approached the subject in a very sincere, methodic and scientific way. I, at my wife’s behest, was involved with his organization's research, prior to the release of his Cosmos book.

There again, beleive as you see fit - I have no interest in debating any of this.

You asked, i answered.

I am what I am. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:15 pm

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The idea here is that everyone who claims "contact" and gets "information" needs to prove that information is real. If, after everything I have been through, someone proves me wrong - I still win. Why? I'M FREE. But to date no one will challenge what I have to say, so, I'm still around.


Onlychild , i really don't think anyone has to prove anything . I don't think it is possible !

You said it yourself , "I"M FREE " What more do you want ?

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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:11 pm

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The idea here is that everyone who claims "contact" and gets "information" needs to prove that information is real. If, after everything I have been through, someone proves me wrong - I still win. Why? I'M FREE. But to date no one will challenge what I have to say, so, I'm still around.


Onlychild , i really don't think anyone has to prove anything . I don't think it is possible !

You said it yourself , "I"M FREE " What more do you want ?

FW .

When I said that the context was about proving I was wrong. Insomuch as proving anything, being "scientific" about it would be the way to go. The vast majority of experiences I have read prove nothing as far as I am concerned. There was one person who basically lost track of everything because "life got in the way," and her experiences over time were nonsense. You are free to do whatever you want to do, but I for one seek verification. Thinking that you don't have to prove anything is NOT the way to go.
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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:29 pm

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Psychosis? Well, I guess anything is possible (so long as it adheres to the laws and precepts of the universe).

Psychosis is nothing more than a bio-mechanical brain glitch. Following it as if it was real ... well, that's another story.

As far as John Mack goes, like any "researcher" in this field, you can't find something when you have no idea what you are looking for. There are no PhD's in the UFO field - this is proven out by the simple fact that after over 6 decades of UFO "stuff" happening, no one has uncovered a single reason WHY for any of this. Yet they stand before man as if they are the begin all and end all of wisdom.

Like Stephen Robbins said:
Individuals shape their world through their perceptions. Once they have created this world, they resist changing it. [They] selectively process information in order to keep their perceptions intact. They hear what they want to hear. They ignore information that challenges the world they've created.
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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:39 am

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When I said that the context was about proving I was wrong. Insomuch as proving anything, being "scientific" about it would be the way to go. The vast majority of experiences I have read prove nothing as far as I am concerned. There was one person who basically lost track of everything because "life got in the way," and her experiences over time were nonsense. You are free to do whatever you want to do, but I for one seek verification. Thinking that you don't have to prove anything is NOT the way to go.


You said the vast majority of experiences you have read have proved nothing as far as you are concerned .
Are there some experiences that you have read that have proved anything to you then ?
As i understand , you already know what you know about the ET reality in your life so i'm not sure what you are looking for ? Verification of what ?

I don't think that i have to prove anything . I just don't have to prove anything . No thinking involved !


Just trying to understand your position more accurately Onlychild . Life has never got in the way of my own experiences because they are my life !

Cheers FW .
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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:58 am

Unbelievable!

It never ceases to amaze me that people, never having experienced the so-called abduction experience, or being a Contactee, can go about spewing misinformation about the matter.

And worse yet, there are those that don't even attempt a cursory review of the abundance of information out there, before spewing their nonsensical wisdom, on the topic.

From my perspective, its rather like a man telling women with children on some forum somewhere, his views on what the birthing process is like; absurd, certainly.

For even if they, being a man, studying up on the matter, it will never ever be the experience of giving birth, as well as the process involved from conception.

There’s the intellectually entertaining (intellectualizing) of a matter, and then there’s the living out the experience – the two are not synonymous.

If this were not the case, we would all simply intellectualize about incarnating on this planet – and forgo the actual experience.

Some things can only be lived out, to be understood.

I am in the Contactee section of this forum, am I not?

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PostSubject: Time   Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:49 am

More Thoughts on Time

Time has its own way of distilling all things to their essence,
and to washing away, if no substance exists, only time


We are all subject to time, controlled by its rhythms and patterns, marching to its beat as we do, between day and night.

Genetically we are coded to follow the cycle of the sun, and are in essence, children of the sun – followers of the sun. Mother Earth provides us with all that we require for us to sustain the body, but it is the sun that sets the pace, or tempo of our life upon this living breathing home that we call earth.

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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:35 am

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You said the vast majority of experiences you have read have proved nothing as far as you are concerned .
Are there some experiences that you have read that have proved anything to you then ?

Yes. Lonnie Zamora was one. The symbol on the craft was a stylized version of the symbol I have been looking at. I think it was - Rendelsham (?) was another. The copied symbols (at least one, maybe two) were again stylized versions of that symbol. Landi Mellas (at least at the beginning) was right as far as what she was shown, and her experience later in life when she was "reprimanded" for screwing things up was another. There are probably others, but I just woke up and the coffee hasn't kicked in yet lol.

As i understand , you already know what you know about the ET reality in your life so i'm not sure what you are looking for ? Verification of what ?

There is an old saying: Two heads are better than one. If two heads are better, 12 would be better yet. All I have ever wanted was a VALID counter argument; to date - nothing. As an example, in 1999 I was sent a web-page about something called the Voynich manuscript. I had never heard of it but took a look. Short story here was that as I looked into it I figure PFFT, this is over my head, but for grins and giggles I wanted to try something I had been working on related to hidden language ideas concerning the use of Hebrew to hide ideas. I played with it on the first sentence, using what is called EVA (European Voynich Alphabet) that was invented by Gabriel Landini and Rene Zanbergen and it worked. I figured nah, it's a coincidence, but kept going to see where it fell apart - it didn't.

Now I admit my presentation to the Voynich group was way off. I was so used to working by myself, and trusting things that I saw, I had no proper constructed explanation - now I do. Landini's approach was the same as mine: visual. In other words, the Voynich IS encoded (at least as far as I got with it) but it isn't the usual type of encoding. It's visually encoded and decodes via Hebrew. It also uses Latin letter / Hebrew letter transliteration substitutes, as well as added letters to established word confusion. An example is AIN. That word is Hebrew, and the root meaning is the eye. To encode that, sometimes there were words like: AIIN and AIIIN used in the text.

Anyway, no one understood what I was getting at (yeah, this time it was my fault :/ ) but I closed the book on it all and went back to what I was doing before this all began. I am telling you now that the Voynich said too much for it's time. You have probably by now seen this picture, it's a spiral galaxy that I had also sent to a scientist ten years ago. Bottom line is that the yellow line (taking into account that this is a drawing and not an exact "plotting") shows our position in the galaxy about 200 years at least before spiral galaxies were even know about. And, if we take this one more step, the circle shows our trip AROUND the galaxy. Who knew that? I'll look, you whistle lol.





I don't think that i have to prove anything . I just don't have to prove anything . No thinking involved !

No one HAS to prove anything to anyone if that is what you desire. However, proof SHOULD be sought for YOU, if for no one else because it would be nice to know that what is rattling around in you head was RIGHT. It's like my translation of the Voynich, it's tentative until I can sit down with someone who knows Hebrew inside and out, and I can explain what I saw and how I arrived at my conclusions. Science works like this and wants data, data, and more data to prove a theory; and I agree with that. We have precious little data to work with, but I have compiled a picture that spans about 40,000 years. According to what I have looked at, we are about to have life shoved up our collective asses, and no one seems to care. All they care about is what they think, and if that's what you want - have at it. I don't care. It's your life, do things your way. As you say below:



Just trying to understand your position more accurately Onlychild . Life has never got in the way of my own experiences because they are my life !

This is a "tentative" translation from the picture above. My question would be: Are your experiences preparing you for this? Since the time I had gotten into this the idea of the "full moon" didn't quite make sense. Today I have an explanation - but, it could be wrong. As I said - tentative. The "inner part dividing" could be referring to Dr LaViolette's galactic superwave as the core of the galaxy explodes (again) just like it did 13,000+ years ago. The visual effect in the sky would be - a blue "eye."

The inner part divides, rips asunder. It surrounds the living. Knowledge is also coming apart. The deniers took the high place. The wheat is the height. Deniers look... trouble comes from the eye, oh sin of God. It is time to cry out for help. You will be lopped off. Amputated by what is coming.

Is it a lie because the blue eye has not yet come? The destruction, the end, has not yet come? The appointed time of the cyclical Phoenix has not yet come?

The Knowledge of God is in every field and town. The moon grows full. You will experience it. Take advice. Take advice.

Cry for help. Search for answers. The storm comes. The moon grows full. The expectation of knowledge. The cyclical eye is a slow cure. Fear of the Phoenix is the medicine.

Your downfall has been written and decided.




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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:39 am

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Unbelievable!

It never ceases to amaze me that people, never having experienced the so-called abduction experience, or being a Contactee, can go about spewing misinformation about the matter.

And worse yet, there are those that don't even attempt a cursory review of the abundance of information out there, before spewing their nonsensical wisdom, on the topic.

From my perspective, its rather like a man telling women with children on some forum somewhere, his views on what the birthing process is like; absurd, certainly.

For even if they, being a man, studying up on the matter, it will never ever be the experience of giving birth, as well as the process involved from conception.

There’s the intellectually entertaining (intellectualizing) of a matter, and then there’s the living out the experience – the two are not synonymous.

If this were not the case, we would all simply intellectualize about incarnating on this planet – and forgo the actual experience.

Some things can only be lived out, to be understood.

I am in the Contactee section of this forum, am I not?

Cheers
Jocariah

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Did you ever stop to think that just MAYBE - you are doing the same thing? Maybe what I have been through was for a reason ... and because I am different you cannot (will not) see it. Have at it - remember what happened to the Clovis culture. Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: REVEALED...   Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:46 pm

As i said Onlychild . my experiences are just that . I don't know if they have prepared me for anything . They have simply made me the person i am now .
I can see why the Zamorra case resonates with you . Interesting that the images matched what you were working with .


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