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PostSubject: We Have the Proof   Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:17 pm

After some thought this morning I realized that the human brain with all of it's biological support functions is the most advanced data storage system that we know of( In My Humble Opinion)

That being said, I know that somewhere someplace, there is a scientist working on being able to retrieve data that the brain stores.

What I believe is, that once this data is able to be retrieved and displayed, all of the people like us, who have had sightings would be able to provide proof positive that UFOs are visiting us. Imagine being able to not only relive your sighting but be able to show it to the world.
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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:43 pm

Even if you could Gort , i don't think it would be the same .
Sounds cheesy i know , but i try to "show " my experience through love !
Good thoughts though Gort .

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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:58 pm

It would be also interesting to view memories of past events to see how good the recall is.

The question is, how would the government use such invasive technology?

This is both fascinating and terrifying.
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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:52 am

Gort wrote:

What I believe is, that once this data is able to be retrieved and displayed, all of the people like us, who have had sightings would be able to provide proof positive that UFOs are visiting us. Imagine being able to not only relive your sighting but be able to show it to the world.

If people cannot reach that point on their own (which means USING the brain), it's truly a sad day on earth. Storage of information presupposes an ability to think and process this information that is stored. I find it odd that the picture you paint is exactly the picture I see regarding people: they don't think - they just LOOK. I'm not trying to be a wise guy, but this subject has existed for us since the early 1940s and people are STILL focused on "finding proof." USE FUZZY LOGIC. Collect data, come to a conclusion, find more data, revamp your conclusion, and go on from there.
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PostSubject: I don't think it's a matter of technology   Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:54 pm

Gort,
There are pieces of wreckage (Bob White) and an alien grave in Texas, both shown to us on UFO Hunters, 0there are analyzed photos, soil samples, pictures and 1st hand accounts by at least 6 US Astronauts and at least one US President.
The people who control disclosure know we have no say in what lifeform flies into our atmosphere and that scares them so bad they won't say a word.
Just my Opinion
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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:39 pm

onlychild wrote:
Gort wrote:

What I believe is, that once this data is able to be retrieved and displayed, all of the people like us, who have had sightings would be able to provide proof positive that UFOs are visiting us. Imagine being able to not only relive your sighting but be able to show it to the world.

If people cannot reach that point on their own (which means USING the brain), it's truly a sad day on earth. Storage of information presupposes an ability to think and process this information that is stored. I find it odd that the picture you paint is exactly the picture I see regarding people: they don't think - they just LOOK. I'm not trying to be a wise guy, but this subject has existed for us since the early 1940s and people are STILL focused on "finding proof." USE FUZZY LOGIC. Collect data, come to a conclusion, find more data, revamp your conclusion, and go on from there.

Interesting, i would like to add that if we look at the absence of Written History in many cultures, it must be believed they memorized things?
I mean how could the Incas have built what they built, without a written language? The exact proportions of many mysteries in these Andean Cultures. Nazca, Puma Punku, etc . how was that done?
Maybe before there was a way to write, Humans may have used far more mental capacities than we have. Perhaps we even devolved? With the advent of writing?
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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:33 pm

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onlychild wrote:
Gort wrote:

What I believe is, that once this data is able to be retrieved and displayed, all of the people like us, who have had sightings would be able to provide proof positive that UFOs are visiting us. Imagine being able to not only relive your sighting but be able to show it to the world.

If people cannot reach that point on their own (which means USING the brain), it's truly a sad day on earth. Storage of information presupposes an ability to think and process this information that is stored. I find it odd that the picture you paint is exactly the picture I see regarding people: they don't think - they just LOOK. I'm not trying to be a wise guy, but this subject has existed for us since the early 1940s and people are STILL focused on "finding proof." USE FUZZY LOGIC. Collect data, come to a conclusion, find more data, revamp your conclusion, and go on from there.

Interesting, i would like to add that if we look at the absence of Written History in many cultures, it must be believed they memorized things?
I mean how could the Incas have built what they built, without a written language? The exact proportions of many mysteries in these Andean Cultures. Nazca, Puma Punku, etc . how was that done?
Maybe before there was a way to write, Humans may have used far more mental capacities than we have. Perhaps we even devolved? With the advent of writing?

The brain will work if pushed, and the key is interest. They thought they were doing all this for the gods, and that is PLENTY of interest drive. We have lost the motivation today, that's all. If we had real information and a direction to go, we'd be there in heartbeat.

Building may not have been as hard as you think. Egypt's building began small and over time the Stepped pyramid evolved as additions to a first structure. There was learning involved with this and over time it was perfected more and more, and more than likely spread outward from there. Allegedly, there is a connection between the Manding language in Africa and the Olmecs, and it would seem that "technology" went too and was passed on.

I had long talks years back with the now late Dan "Moonhawk" Alford, and language was a hot topic in his Native American studies. He believed communication between us was different thousands of years ago. According to Native American beliefs, we used some language, signing, and telepathy. Then "something happened" that changed everything and a written form of language had to be incorporated. The scant ESP and what have you today would be all that is left of what had disappeared.

What I found odd and dropped on him was the arrival of the galactic superwave C 13,000 BC. After all the doom had settled down (and possible radiation exposure / genetic mutations?) writing / symbols did pop up C 9000 BC for the first time. It's impossible to say exactly what happened, but the pieces would fit even if they are a little loose.
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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:53 am

What a Face only child,
What ooccurred ?
The signs of various disastrous events are all around us.
One of the clearest and easiest is to simply look at the layers of earth and the various debris left in them.
because of my occupation I was regularly exposed to the relics of by gone ages.
The meteor that hit cancun created such a huge crater that I am sure it affected the both the earths crust and the magnetic poles.
Part and parcel of it is ancient coral in the mountains of central America and the entire Caribbean island chain. My favorite find is the mud rocks from here in Florida. These balls of cooked mud that were thrown out of the impact site. I recovered one with tubes in it. Yet the signs point to more then one event. At one level I can recover sharks teeth the size of your hand at another site giant sloths.
At the bottom of the tubes are little metal balls. Imagine what it would take to super heat common mud, to cook it into splash balls.
In Cuba I recovered Coral, in the mountains, so old that it would float in water.
If you go to Ohio, you can recover the fossils of sea creatures. Wyoming dinosaur fossils

How many events do You think occurred?

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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:42 am

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What a Face only child,
What ooccurred ?

How many events do You think occurred?

What has been passed down, and you have probably heard it before, is that we are living in the fourth world. According to what I have looked at, and depending on how you wish to view the last event, that's either right or wrong. I have found two event periods, one going back to C 40,000 BC, the other was C 13,500 BC. The last one had two events that could have caused a dividing line in memory, with an air-burst comet impact over N America about 10,000 BC.

ET would have been here on both occasions, and the only proof seems to be that we underwent a mirror neuron event both times. In other words, we saw "something" that made us copy things we were witness to or shown. The C 40,000 BC "learning event" was global, as was the "building" that has been found going back to C 9000 BC on the part of the globe not directly affected by the comet.
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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:32 am

Odd that you should mention that.
One of the digs and by that I do not mean archeological, but I am refering to excavation of materials from the earths subsurface .
The point bieng that they recovered some ceramic tiles dating back some 10,000. Now as far as I have been able to find out, there were not supposed to be any civilizations, durring that period, that were capable of making ceramics.
This by the way was in Colorado up in the mountains. Not to far from the dinosaur park. Then oddly the information dryed up.
Now, no one seems to know anything (why am I not surprised).
I am not sure about world events and how many there were. What I know is by looking at geology, There have been a number of catastrophic events that have occurred. If one goes to the Grand Canyon and takes the time going down the trails you can see the diffrent events layered before your eyes. Most people don't look at the canyon and see history. They see only the hole in the ground.
Most people, I have been told, use only 8 to 10 % of thier brain. I have been blessed with meeting some people who use more.
Some even belonging to mensa. The truly brilliant minds such as Hawkens and Ienstine I envy. Do you think that kind of intellect maybe a curse to those that are bright?

I remain the dim (dumb) bulb at the end of the tunnel
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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:34 am

davefair wrote:
Do you think that kind of intellect maybe a curse to those that are bright?

I remain the dim (dumb) bulb at the end of the tunnel
People like the idea of high IQs. My take is that having a high IQ can be likened to having a kitchen full of food: frig is full, cabinets are full, freezer is full ... you get the idea. The question is not "Do you have food?" The question is: "CAN YOU COOK?" It's useless to have all of that food if you can't do anything with it, and I have read PhD material in this subject that is sorely wanting.

Is it a curse? No. It would just be boring lol. But then, you usually have your face buried in a project, so you never notice Very Happy

As far as dim bulb - in the context of THIS subject ? ... nah. The answer is literally impossible to find, because you can't find something when you have no idea what it is you are looking for.

People are in for a shock when TSHTF. I spent 36 years playing "find the answer" with - whoever. The final answer regarding their - arrival - is nothing more than trust. That's it. Stop. Go no further. There are NO details. Everything else I have looked at regards what we lost, and what we lost says if they show up on this level, something really bad is coming. What's coming? That's a detail ... forget it. When will it happen? That's a detail - forget it.

Yes, I dabble in trying to put a picture together because that's the way my brain works - and others as well. But, I don't believe any of it, and I'm not responsible for putting that picture together. I'm just having fun and I'm trying to not melt down into a puddle of boredom.

So don't be hard on yourself; anyone who asks questions trying to find real answers is miles ahead of the crowd. The picture is so simple it took me 36 years to find the answer scratch - and THAT was with given clues. Sit back, relax, and just trust - that's it.
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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:02 pm

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As far as dim bulb - in the context of THIS subject ? ... nah. The answer is literally impossible to find, because you can't find something when you have no idea what it is you are looking for.

Exactly Onlychild . Surely it must be impossible to know the answer to a question we don't have !

What then is the question ? I suppose we question for a reason . " What is the point " is frequently the question .

Point is what you make it i consider . It's called free will . The freedom to chose as you will .

We all have the capacity to shine bright .Life is a journey of our making , and we learn through our mistakes . But what if the mistake is to "not realise " that we can't make mistakes !

Ahh , starting to ramble !!!

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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:42 pm

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As far as dim bulb - in the context of THIS subject ? ... nah. The answer is literally impossible to find, because you can't find something when you have no idea what it is you are looking for.

Exactly Onlychild . Surely it must be impossible to know the answer to a question we don't have !

Unless "someone" decides to let you in on it, which seems to be the essence of everything I have been through. I just think it's funny that no one listens; all I have ever asked is - prove me wrong.



What then is the question ? I suppose we question for a reason . " What is the point " is frequently the question .

Based on our history, we lost something, so ... what did we lose?


Point is what you make it i consider . It's called free will . The freedom to chose as you will .

Yeah, you can do that ... but it isn't a good idea. The trick to the labyrinth is to never make a turn until you are told where to go. So if you stand at the entrance - don't go in until you are told.


We all have the capacity to shine bright .

Things shine bright in a fire too. Just ask the Clovis culture - oh wait, you can't Basketball



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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:58 pm

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free wheel wrote:
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As far as dim bulb - in the context of THIS subject ? ... nah. The answer is literally impossible to find, because you can't find something when you have no idea what it is you are looking for.

Exactly Onlychild . Surely it must be impossible to know the answer to a question we don't have !

Unless "someone" decides to let you in on it, which seems to be the essence of everything I have been through. I just think it's funny that no one listens; all I have ever asked is - prove me wrong.



What then is the question ? I suppose we question for a reason . " What is the point " is frequently the question .

Based on our history, we lost something, so ... what did we lose?


Point is what you make it i consider . It's called free will . The freedom to chose as you will .

Yeah, you can do that ... but it isn't a good idea. The trick to the labyrinth is to never make a turn until you are told where to go. So if you stand at the entrance - don't go in until you are told.


We all have the capacity to shine bright .

Things shine bright in a fire too. Just ask the Clovis culture - oh wait, you can't Basketball





Firstly Onlychild , i would say . No-one can prove you wrong , nor should they want too .
I don't consider that i have lost anything .
The only instance on which i would enter the "Labyrinth " or decide when to turn , is when i decided .
The Clovis culture are history "perhaps " They are irrelevant in the "here and now " unless you make them .

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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:58 pm

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Firstly Onlychild , i would say . No-one can prove you wrong , nor should they want too .

Well, I want that. There could be something I missed and someone else sees. It really is necessary.


I don't consider that i have lost anything .
The only instance on which i would enter the "Labyrinth " or decide when to turn , is when i decided .

That's where your "free will" comes in and you may do whatever you like. The labyrinth picture is light symbolism, but it defines the picture of learning regarding this subject to a tee. The last lesson I learned - was to sit tight - until you are told where to go.

The Clovis culture are history "perhaps " They are irrelevant in the "here and now " unless you make them .

No, not really. The Clovis culture were people like us. They were supposed to know something, just like we are supposed to know something. They are the historical picture to view. The comet came - poof - gone. Why? They didn't know. Meanwhile, the so-called fourth world began on the other side of the globe where the so-called goddess, the symbolic "sign of life," reigned.

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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:48 am

Hmmm!
Food for thought!
What if we were given the answers and didn't know the question.
If the proof were to stick it's head up would we see it?
Once again, If the president lies then how can we expect any truths out of
the goverment?
Weapons test ranges exist in various locations. My personal expiernce
at Egling afb, tells me that there are some things that are definately secret
tests. Gulf breeze sits directly to the south. People see things in the sky.
Surprise, surprise viedos actually show some thing going on.
The airforces nope not us.
Wink nudge giggle.

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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:52 pm

davefair wrote:
Hmmm!
Food for thought!
What if we were given the answers and didn't know the question.

You can't find something when you have no idea what you are looking for.



If the proof were to stick it's head up would we see it?

Not so far lol ....



Once again, If the president lies then how can we expect any truths out of
the goverment?

Sociopaths only tell the truth when it aids them. So, you can't.


Weapons test ranges exist in various locations. My personal expiernce
at Egling afb, tells me that there are some things that are definately secret
tests. Gulf breeze sits directly to the south. People see things in the sky.
Surprise, surprise viedos actually show some thing going on.
The airforces nope not us.

That's my argument. When people in this subject open their mouths, it's always about the same old stories, rehashed over and over again. No one seems to realize that you aren't getting anywhere with this tripe. And if someone comes up with something new ... look out ... it doesn't fit what we believe ...

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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:48 pm

It's more like a riddle than a definitive answer to a question, because, no singular ubiquitous question has been presented for an absolute answer. My forensic interpretation of this whole thing lies in the millions of puzzle pieces strewn about in the minds of mankind. No matter how bizarre a story sounds, somewhere, in there, is a grain of truth to whats occurring in and out of our reality. The seeker of the solution need only sleuth the bits from the stream for a golden find.
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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:26 am

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My forensic interpretation of this whole thing lies in the millions of puzzle pieces strewn about in the minds of mankind.

This is why the UFO subject has gone 'round in circles for over six decades, and everyone thinks they have the final answer. The approach is really akin to a scattered "groupthink," with the exception that there are many "leaders" as picked and chosen by the individuals. Now while this MAY benefit a picture construction regarding today, it completely negates the addition of information, say, 350 years ago, 1000 years ago, 2000 years ago, etc.

The idea is that this is not a "local" picture ... this is something I have tracked back 40,000 years, with an anomaly that goes back even further. If my guess is right regarding the anomaly, the base idea here failed. Toba took out the vast majority of the population 72,000 +/- years ago - and around 35,000 people made it through, all being in one place on the globe. We have no details except for the "bottleneck" genetic researchers have found.

As long as people keep putzin' around "today" trying to figure this picture out, they are going to fail epically. Everything I have looked at boils down to nothing more than a restoration of what we lost 5000+ years ago, and what we lost simply says that if the sh*t is going to hit the fan, they will come and help. That's it, stop, don't go any further. Once you have THAT in your head, if you feel compelled to fool around with the picture regarding today, be my guest.

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PostSubject: metaphysical phenomenological   Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:39 pm

arguments may be fun, but where do they leave us.
The evidence I have collected; including 500,000,000 year old fossil nautoloids
say the earth is so old and structures ion Malta, in Jerico, in India says that civilization began in earnest on Earth around 10,000 years ago.I have not seen or heard of anything much earlier.
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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:59 pm

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arguments may be fun, but where do they leave us.
The evidence I have collected; including 500,000,000 year old fossil nautoloids
say the earth is so old and structures ion Malta, in Jerico, in India says that civilization began in earnest on Earth around 10,000 years ago.I have not seen or heard of anything much earlier.

That was the (approximate) end of the last destruction period, and the beginning of the so-called fourth world. We were suddenly - different.
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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:47 pm

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jackgbowman wrote:
arguments may be fun, but where do they leave us.
The evidence I have collected; including 500,000,000 year old fossil nautoloids
say the earth is so old and structures ion Malta, in Jerico, in India says that civilization began in earnest on Earth around 10,000 years ago.I have not seen or heard of anything much earlier.

That was the (approximate) end of the last destruction period, and the beginning of the so-called fourth world. We were suddenly - different.

The physicist say that the universe is some 11.5 billion years old.
In my travels i have seen many signs of destruction written on the face of this planet.
In geophysics as you go down thru the layers of earth, they are there to see.
Water bieng the most corrsive liquid in existance has exposed the various layers. monument valley and the grand canyon where the ages are exposed for all to see.
tutonic plates, volcanos. The signs are all there, but are indeed hard to read.
The finding of a cermaic tile in Colorado dated back some 10,000 years ago. What civilaztion could make ceramics back at that age?
None that I have heard of. What we need is a good Indiana Jones to do the research.
The seven red haired giant mummys of the south west burried in thier cave. What secrets do they hold?
Here in Florida we have vast strip mines pulling up the phosphates of the old sea bottom of a by gone age. Countless relics destroyed. I have personally dug up sharks teeth the size of a human hand. Sea erchiens bigger then my fist.
In the layer above that. Sloths of huge size, primitive horses the size of a dog and saber tooth tigers. All Echo's of a by gone time.
If you sail down the coast of russia you can see the signs of vast flooding along the way. Trees with trunks the size of cars layed horizantal along the coast. thier trunks bleached white from eons of exposure to the sea.
Oh Yes all of the signs are there. If you but care to see.
Gelogy reveals all for those who care to look. Crater Lake, but an example of the one that created the gulf of Mexico.
Coral over 20 million years old, so dry that it floats dug from the mountains of Cuba.
Sea fossils in the sand stone of Ohio. trilobits from the mountains of Georgia.

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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:08 pm

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The finding of a cermaic tile in Colorado dated back some 10,000 years ago. What civilaztion could make ceramics back at that age?
None that I have heard of. What we need is a good Indiana Jones to do the research.

This was the time for a lot of NEW to pop up, look at Göbekli Tepe. ET only shows up if it's a vast destruction event, and the period from approximately 13,500 BC to around 9500 was the last event. To me, seeing "new" pop up isn't so mysterious. The event before that was C 40,000 BC, and the mirror neuron event (NEW stuff) was virtually global.

The seven red haired giant mummys of the south west burried in thier cave. What secrets do they hold?

Got a link on that?

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according to astromers and physicists the universe- this one- is 13.7 billion years old and may have been formed when two other universes collided.
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PostSubject: Re: We Have the Proof   Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:36 pm

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according to astromers and physicists the universe- this one- is 13.7 billion years old and may have been formed when two other universes collided.
I love listening to the possibilities. Couple of weeks or so ago, I was like - what? - we live in a black hole? Shocked

There is probably a picture out there the likes of which we couldn't imagine.
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