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PostSubject: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:38 pm

Most Contactees are simply Cowards!

From my perspective, there are a lot of stupid contactees out there.

People who fail to integrate their experiences in a way that enables them to understand that their experiences represent an opportunity to expand their worldview or belief system to more fully and completely grasp the significance of their interaction with creatures of a higher order.

To open both their minds and their hearts to their experiences, from a totally new perspective or worldview – casting aside their old belief systems, like a child who grows up to discover that there really is no Easter bunny.

But no, they tend to focus on the trauma or shock to their system, or how all of this runs counter, or contrary to their existing belief system or worldview, and miss out what is within their grasp – a higher understanding of the universe in which they live and their interconnectedness to all creatures from all civilizations, everywhere.

This is the very birthright of all intelligent creatures, everywhere.

Why would creatures of a higher order reveal themselves in any real or substantial way to those who could not expand their belief sys. to include and embrace these very creatures of a higher order?

I have been accused of being brainwashed by my keepers, those creatures of a higher order. But rather, it saddens me to say, most contactees are simply cowards; failing to grasp the brass ring that is before them.

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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:03 am

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I have wondered that as well when it comes to all the fear involved and negativity and paranoia. But I wouldn't use the Coward word but to each their own. Not saying I agree totally with you completely or know without a fact. I do know I have heard some pretty disturbing stories about missing babies and things to that nature from people I trust. I just think that if higher beings are stealing babies that's a little F'ed up right? I see your point though it's why I'm currently writing my first book Probes Happen with a grinning alien on the front doing a thumbs up. It's the new S@@@ Happens of UFology and I'm coining it cause I've never heard it before except Alien Probes Happen. I have seen UFOs and beings and at first I was scared out of my frickkin mind but now I treasure it and when I have these experiences I am grateful and there is less fear.. Can I speak for everyone? I don't know but you make some interesting points and I also wanted to add that it is definitely something I have pondered about myself and a lot lately..Not the coward aspect but the fear aspect and how it may warp our perceptions on some level negatively and primitively and the last few days for me UFO experience wise have been pretty bizarre.. so having to face that part of doing the evolution again for a fact..I think I have come a long way and it certainly feels better vibration wise..
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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:08 am

Hi Ufofiend,

Thank you for your reply.

For the record, when I say that 'most contactees are cowards' ... I include myself
as well. A dramatic figurative statement, perhaps, but a point that needs made, nevertheless.

My question here, is when do we, collectivly, as contactees, leave behind all of that emotional and psychological baggage (perceived or otherwise), and move forward to embrace our experiences for what they really are?...a privilege!

A privilege that not all humans have. And we, as contactees, need to see this aspect of our experience, of our lives, as a privilege in our lives – not some filthy thing, happening to us at the hands of some unknown monsters.

It's time for us to awaken, we have been enlightened - put aside the circumstances or emotions behind the experience and move on to embrace that privilege, that brass ring within our grasp.

Perhaps I am really writing to myself, here. Saying those things that I in particular need to hear.

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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:12 pm

Understood J. This is all an exploration for us all that gets different every day in so many ways. It's why I'm obsessed because it's so fascinating. Plus since I was healed from cancer and my father passed away many many years ago I have attracted UFOs and many witnesses have seen them with me. In my wilder heavy metal occult foolish days I saw strange beings. But only UFOs now and a lot.. I don't know I'f I'm attracting them or they were just always there to begin with and I can just see them. I think a bit of both. I believe I have seen them on some level because long ago when I was very ill I prayed to GOD about becoming a superhero when I was 17 and dying from Cancer.. I was young and a comic book nerd.. still am. lol and since then things have never been the same. I'm no superman that's for damn sure. I'm a mess but it's been one interesting ride that's for sure and keeps on going and going. I do think if possible the more that people can look at these experiences the way of you spoke of the better. But I am not going to discredit any of these abuse stories either because well just like with people your gonna have an asshole right? So I figure that's probably about the same with other denizens as well. I dunno but just my two cents.. Full moon tonight and hope all of you have a groovy weekend..
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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:36 pm

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Understood J...... I do think if possible the more that people can look at these experiences the way of you spoke of the better. But I am not going to discredit any of these abuse stories either because well just like with people your gonna have an asshole right?..

Incessant Whining!

Its the incessant whining by these contactees that I find offensive, actually.

You were abducted/contacted (for the most part) against your will - I get it!

It was traumatic for you - I get it!

It went against all of those 'societal norms' that you came to hold as truths in your life - I get it!

You have been FORCED to alter your 'worldview' - I get it!

So man up (or woman up, as the case may be) and get over it.

If I hear or read about one more whining contactee telling the world about how
they've been exploited, I'll burst.

Honestly, folks, get over it.

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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:07 am

Yeah reminds me of the Marilyn Manson song. Hey Victim shall I black your eyes again? Your the one that put the stick in my hand. etc etc I think everyone has their own method of dealing with their own experiences. Like I said J before if someone had their baby taken from them and was carrying a baby and then shortly after the baby is gone from what appears is the contact scenario. Then please tell me how this fits into the higher plan of enlightened beings taking babies. I am just gathering data here because this is one of the things I find the most haunting in some of these tales be they true or not true. I wasn't there to witness but will not say I don't believe them either. I'm just trying to see how if let's say this happens to a woman. How does this fit into the scheme of things?

Just gathering data and I wanna understand that from your perspective as well. Now I do believe there is an evolution of fear from the start. Fear can warp things and make you see through a dark glass and see things wrong. I believe that and I do see a lot of fear and paranoia in a lot of discussions I have read. It concerns me but I do not know the whole story. I can just tell my story and just try to overcome my fear which I feel have done in a lot of ways with more to do.

I certainly don't feel like a victim or abused in anyway. If anything I love it and how it has opened up my senses and how much I have grown from it. But still so much to learn and so much to do.. I also don't think we should blindly treat any alien beings like Gods either.. I mean would you treat this being like an equal or would you go down on your knees in good ole Christian fashion? That is something I'm pretty sure isn't the right approach either.. Also sometimes it sure feels like the beings are playing puzzle mystery batman riddler with us as well at times which can be frustrating! Hope your having a good weekend..
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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:07 am

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It's time for us to awaken, we have been enlightened -

So tell me, regarding enlightenment, what exactly do you know now that will benefit humanity as that would be the bottom line?
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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:29 pm

Ufofiend wrote:
...I certainly don't feel like a victim or abused in anyway. If anything I love it and how it has opened up my senses and how much I have grown from it...

Good for you, UfoFiend, this sounds like a good definition of enlightenment.


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It's time for us to awaken, we have been enlightened -

So tell me, regarding enlightenment, what exactly do you know now that will benefit humanity as that would be the bottom line?

“…benefit humanity” ?

What does humanity have to do with any of this?

“…as that would be the bottom line”?

Whose bottom line?

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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:25 pm

My contact experiences have been very positive .
I woul'nt say that i have been enlightened really . I would say that i kind of new it all before . However , i would say that as a result of my direct contact i was left with a more urgent feeling to help others . Not particularily humanity but anyone that i come into contact with .
Interesting thread J .

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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:52 pm

free wheel wrote:
My contact experiences have been very positive .
I woul'nt say that i have been enlightened really . I would say that i kind of new it all before . However , i would say that as a result of my direct contact i was left with a more urgent feeling to help others . Not particularily humanity but anyone that i come into contact with .
Interesting thread J .

Cheers FW . Very Happy

Hi free wheel,

Thanks for taking the time to comment. It's been kind of cathartic for me, actually, starting this thread - I've been wanting to get this off of my chest, for a long time now.

Humanity is such a vague term, at least to my way of thinking. As you say; "...but anyone that I come into contact with ", is such a perfect concept with which to actuate deeds. Good for you.

One person, one deed, one moment at a time.

To me, enlightenment can be knowing that we as humans are not alone in the universe, but rather, part of a much bigger collective.

Knowing, not by intellectualizing, nor by conceptualizing, but rather from the truest sense...first hand experience. That is to say, experiencing creatures of a higher order, first hand.

This kind of knowing can never be conceptualized or intellectualized into existence.

In that regard, Contactees and only Contactees can be so enlightened.

Non- Contactees will never understand that. But then, they will never have to deal with their worldview being pulled out from under them. They can 'toy', intellectually, with such concepts, going only as far as is safe for them, but no further - knowing that their worldview will be safely intact for them when they get home, and place their head upon their pillow at night. This is what I hold against all non-Contactees toying in such matters.

There will always be a natural divide, gulf or chasm being Contactees and non-Contactees that can never be bridged, no matter how much we may wish or how hard we try. They can never imagine our experiences nor experience our experiences, merely by the intellectualizing. And whether they deny our experiences or not (for some deny that we as Contactees even exist), they will always be put off by us simply being who it is that we are... Contactees!

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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:44 pm

onlychild wrote:
Jocariah wrote:


It's time for us to awaken, we have been enlightened -

So tell me, regarding enlightenment, what exactly do you know now that will benefit humanity as that would be the bottom line?

“…benefit humanity” ?

What does humanity have to do with any of this?

“…as that would be the bottom line”?

Whose bottom line?



That would MY bottom line based on everything I have learned.

I'm a bit confused by all this. I have had 55 years of experiences, but unlike anything I have ever read about. I was sent to find something, and after 36 years of research I come back to square one and find that none of the alleged experiences people claim come anywhere close to anything important - it's all basically a word salad.

Humanity means the entire human race, even though you think it's a vague term. If everything in your enlightenment picture boils down to knowing we are not alone, that's sad. There isn't one thing you have said that convinces me you are what you claim to be; it's all a word salad. You begin this thread calling alleged experiencers cowards. You attack their very being because YOU think they whine too much. When questioned on that statement, you suddenly become a part of the coward crowd.

As far as I am concerned it's people like you that have made this subject the mockery it is today. You offer nothing - you open your mouth and the subject becomes laughable.

I know this reply is going to over like a lead-balloon, but quite frankly I am tired of the crap I have been reading (and I don't mean exclusively here on this board).
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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:14 pm

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"I'm a bit confused by all this. I have had 55 years of experiences, but unlike anything I have ever read about. I was sent to find something, and after 36 years of research I come back to square one and find that none of the alleged experiences people claim come anywhere close to anything important - it's all basically a word salad."

"...none of the alleged experiences people claim come anywhere close to anything important"

Important for 'whom' ..?

You...or them?

Who can judge what is or is not important to someone else?

And why look into someone else’s experiences for what is important to you?

Why on earth would anyone look into someone else’s experiences for something
that is important to them? The experiences of another are theirs alone – important (or not,
as the case may be) to them alone.

This quest of your seems rather like madness to me. But whom am I to say – it is your quest, not mine.

Lastly, believe what you want of me, I have nothing to prove to anyone.

I am what I am.

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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:49 pm

Jocariah wrote:
onlychild wrote:
"I'm a bit confused by all this. I have had 55 years of experiences, but unlike anything I have ever read about. I was sent to find something, and after 36 years of research I come back to square one and find that none of the alleged experiences people claim come anywhere close to anything important - it's all basically a word salad."

"...none of the alleged experiences people claim come anywhere close to anything important"

Important for 'whom' ..?

You...or them?

Who can judge what is or is not important to someone else?

And why look into someone else’s experiences for what is important to you?

Why on earth would anyone look into someone else’s experiences for something
that is important to them? The experiences of another are theirs alone – important (or not,
as the case may be) to them alone.

This quest of your seems rather like madness to me. But whom am I to say – it is your quest, not mine.

Lastly, believe what you want of me, I have nothing to prove to anyone.

I am what I am.

Actually you do have something to prove to me. If you truly "knew" anything you would have realized that what is missing from the mix is harmony. People who claim they know and were told things must all agree. If the picture is scrambled there is no harmony; no harmony indicates to the rest of the population who know nothing, that this subject is a farce. They turn away. If there is something critical to be known they will not hear. The Clovis culture died 10,000 BC because they didn't hear, or their ancestors didn't WANT to hear so they never taught the children.

This lack of harmony has caused people to believe the confusion is ETs fault; that there are different factions within the ranks with different objectives. This has to be the stupidest idea I have ever heard - oh wait - I forgot the person who said ET was going to gather humans, call them under a hypnotic trance and bring them onto the ships and store them as food before they left.

Why should I care? I have worked my ass off for 36 years putting together the picture I have. I have been to hell and back doing this and it's the clowns in the UFO field that are going to screw this all up. Screw what up? Why don't you ask your - "contact."

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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:12 am

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Actually you do have something to prove to me. If you truly "knew" anything you would have realized that what is missing from the mix is harmony. People who claim they know and were told things must all agree. If the picture is scrambled there is no harmony; no harmony indicates to the rest of the population who know nothing, that this subject is a farce. They turn away. If there is something critical to be known they will not hear. The Clovis culture died 10,000 BC because they didn't hear, or their ancestors didn't WANT to hear so they never taught the children.

This lack of harmony has caused people to believe the confusion is ETs fault; that there are different factions within the ranks with different objectives. This has to be the stupidest idea I have ever heard - oh wait - I forgot the person who said ET was going to gather humans, call them under a hypnotic trance and bring them onto the ships and store them as food before they left.

Why should I care? I have worked my ass off for 36 years putting together the picture I have. I have been to hell and back doing this and it's the clowns in the UFO field that are going to screw this all up. Screw what up? Why don't you ask your - "contact."

Hi Onlychild ,
Firstly , we come across clowns in all walks of life
. To me , these people are not obstacles to muddy the waters , just another part of the big picture . We learn from all our experiences and contact with everything . This is a good thing in my veiw .
As far as proving anything to anyone , it is my veiw that it is not possible to prove anything , there is no such thing as proof .
Your research over the last 36 years is of interest to me because you have talked about a symbol that is important you believe . However , i am a little concerned that your research has left you feeling angry .
Personally , i consider myself to be the same being now , as i was before any of my conscious contact experiences .
I no longer read books about UFO;s or related phenomenon , there is no point in my veiw . I simply try and apply my truest feelings each moment to whatever may be .
There really is no right or wrong way as far as i am concerned but i would suggest that if it's an answer that you are looking for you may find it a lot closer too home than you think .

Just my thoughts Onlychild . Not meant to annoy or stir .

Big respect .

FW
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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:38 am

Thanks for taking the time to comment, onlychild,

onlychild wrote:
Actually you do have something to prove to me

I guess we disagree then.

onlychild wrote:
Why should I care? I have worked my ass off for 36 years putting together the picture I have.

And how is that working out for you so far?

onlychild wrote:
I have been to hell and back doing this and it's the clowns in the UFO field that are going to screw this all up. Screw what up? Why don't you ask your - "contact."

Sounds as if the entire weight and fate of the UFO phenomena rests on your shoulders alone.... good luck with that one. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:34 am

Now fellows no need to be insulting people's characters now...

Everyone contains a piece of the puzzle. Some puzzles maybe darker than others.

Like mine for instance.

I see all perspectives and hold all of it in value when learning the bigger picture.

I do know there is an Evolution of Fear when it comes to Contactee experiences.

I do believe that Fear can cloud some people's judgements on some level. It's a lot to deal with at first.

But I also believe there are people out there who have experienced some unnecessary horrors
from perhaps beings that are pricks.

Just trying to focus on my journey and learn from others.. It's been one strange trip.

Thanks everyone for the passion.. that's all you need to have to make a difference no matter what direction your going in.

As for Clowns.. Everyone has a little bit of Coyote in them and some more than others. But let us not forget The Fool is the first card in the ancient Tarot which is the adventurer. Let's also remember according to Native Legend Coyote brought fire to mankind also. Sometimes clowns turn out to legendary heroes..

Instead of butting heads let's try putting them together and blasting down the wall of disclosure instead by aligning our intentions and shooting the third eye chakra gun. Badda Bing Badda Boom Badda Bam!

To much Cappachino in the morning.. sings.. Shalom ya'll!
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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:47 am

Well said Ufofiend ,
I would just like to point out that i am not having a go at anybody here .
Everyones journey is different and i respect that .

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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:28 am

Hi Ufofiend,

Ufofiend wrote:
I do know there is an Evolution of Fear when it comes to Contactee experiences.

I do believe that Fear can cloud some people's judgements on some level. It's a lot to deal with at first

There will always be a natural divide between Contactees and non-Contactees.

We, as Contactees, by our very existence, force people to evaluate their long-held belief systems, or worldview.

Better, and easier, from their perspective, to try to discredit all of us in any way possible, than it would be to let go of or reconfigure their current, long-held worldview.

You see, they must hold on, at all costs, to their worldview – out of fear – fear of the unknown. "What would I do", they think to themselves, "if all that I hold as true and sacred were wrong"?

They are not reasoning logically, but rather fighting tooth-and-nail (subconsciously, perhaps) to
maintain their long-held worldview.

This really is at the very core of all of this.

And they do it, primarily, by trying to discredit the person - or as in the case as was done here, trying
to get the person to PROVE their experiences.

It is not we as Contactees, per se, that they detest - but rather their inability to wrap their minds
around the fact that we exist, while maintaining their current worldview.

Hence the conflict, anger and turmoil they so often experience.

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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:37 am

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Everyones journey is different and i respect that .

If I tried to sum up everything just said, that line would be it. Everyone's "journey" should not be "different." We all should be on the same page and we are not because of what I call cognitive compromise. Cognitive compromise is a multifaceted problem with many possibilities that range from actual brain damage to just an inability to think correctly, not understanding how the brain processes data. People in this vein tend to utilize one hemisphere more than the other, instead of using both in harmony.

What set me off was the thread's title which was that most contactees are cowards. Well hell, what would you expect from people confronted with a subject that has no explanation? And on top of that, the explanations that came over time were SO confusing, that they failed to explain ANYTHING, and so people continued to fear. Makes perfect sense to me.

I just now watched a video from UFO Hunters, and Bill, after TWENTY YEARS, is STILL looking for proof of UFOs. HELLO? Is he serious? Hey Bill, can you hear me? Time to stop futzing around with surface data. Time to explore the real material. I have the formula to the picture - time to see what else is out there if we follow the "context."

Hey Bill ... do you know what THIS is?



How about this?



Or this?



Or this?



Or this?



How about this?



Or does this sum up your approach?



Remember the Clovis culture - here today - boom - gone tomorrow.
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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:02 pm

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There will always be a natural divide between Contactees and non-Contactees.

And THAT should not be.

We, as Contactees, by our very existence, force people to evaluate their long-held belief systems, or worldview.

Oh - do WE really? Explain to me how what you KNOW accomplishes this?




Better, and easier, from their perspective, to try to discredit all of us in any way possible, than it would be to let go of or reconfigure their current, long-held worldview.

They walk away because no one presents a logical picture for assimilation. People want an entire picture; explanations as to why this and why that. It never comes and I don't blame them for walking away.





You see, they must hold on, at all costs, to their worldview – out of fear – fear of the unknown. "What would I do", they think to themselves, "if all that I hold as true and sacred were wrong"?

They would appreciate a detailed explanation. They hold to their world view beliefs because of lack of data. Religion is another story completely, and that would create a fear based on "god's wrath" for questioning, which is nothing more than brainwashing.




They are not reasoning logically, but rather fighting tooth-and-nail (subconsciously, perhaps) to maintain their long-held worldview.

Based on data concerning people I have spoken with, I disagree. If you actually present the component parts to the picture, there is no fighting. Again, religion does not fit this picture, but religion is brainwashing and another story completely.



This really is at the very core of all of this.

And they do it, primarily, by trying to discredit the person - or as in the case as was done here, trying to get the person to PROVE their experiences.

Data is data. It can be analyzed, broken down, looked into. What would a person fear by giving the data needed to present the picture?



It is not we as Contactees, per se, that they detest - but rather their inability to wrap their minds around the fact that we exist, while maintaining their current worldview.

Hence the conflict, anger and turmoil they so often experience.

No, it's the empty data-less explanations these alleged contactees give to the public. Delusional expressions of a subject they have no clue about, desperately wanting to be part of something that they are not a part of. These are the people who have destroyed this subject and made it a joke.




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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:41 pm

Hi onlychild,

Apparently we disagree on most everything.

My perspective is simply that - my perspective. Take it or leave it as you see fit.

This ideal that you hold of everyone everywhere being on the “same page” with regard
to these phenomena, is perhaps an unrealistic expectation.

To me, I think it smacks of totalitarianism.

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If I tried to sum up everything just said, that line would be it. Everyone's "journey" should not be "different." We all should be on the same page and we are not because of what I call cognitive compromise.

One man’s ‘cognitive compromise’ is another man’s intellectual diversity.

Moreover, your inference that there is something wrong with those that don't think as you do, I find to be both ugly and offensive to its very core.

Conflict, in all of it's facets, is a vital part or ingredient of all human interaction. And it is conflict resolution which separates the civilized from the uncivilized among us.

A diamond has many facets; perhaps these phenomena do as well.

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Jocariah

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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:29 pm

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No, it's the empty data-less explanations these alleged contactees give to the public. Delusional expressions of a subject they have no clue about, desperately wanting to be part of something that they are not a part of. These are the people who have destroyed this subject and made it a joke.


It is my view that this subject is becoming less and less of a joke daily !

Interesting pics you posted there Onlychild .
Am i correct that much of what i am seeing has masonic origins ?


Cheers FW .
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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:42 pm

Jocariah wrote:
Hi onlychild,

Apparently we disagree on most everything.

My perspective is simply that - my perspective. Take it or leave it as you see fit.

This ideal that you hold of everyone everywhere being on the “same page” with regard
to these phenomena, is perhaps an unrealistic expectation.

To me, I think it smacks of totalitarianism.

See it as you will, it is coming.





onlychild wrote:
If I tried to sum up everything just said, that line would be it. Everyone's "journey" should not be "different." We all should be on the same page and we are not because of what I call cognitive compromise.

One man’s ‘cognitive compromise’ is another man’s intellectual diversity.

Moreover, your inference that there is something wrong with those that don't think as you do, I find to be both ugly and offensive to its very core.

Conflict, in all of it's facets, is a vital part or ingredient of all human interaction. And it is conflict resolution which separates the civilized from the uncivilized among us.

A diamond has many facets; perhaps these phenomena do as well.

And perhaps - you are wrong.


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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:27 pm

free wheel wrote:
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No, it's the empty data-less explanations these alleged contactees give to the public. Delusional expressions of a subject they have no clue about, desperately wanting to be part of something that they are not a part of. These are the people who have destroyed this subject and made it a joke.


It is my view that this subject is becoming less and less of a joke daily !

Unless the core picture is understood it will mean nothing.



Interesting pics you posted there Onlychild .
Am i correct that much of what i am seeing has masonic origins ?

The first was from an unknown - that is a representation of the symbol and is directly connected to the source as it sits. Dating was given as early 1950s according to mortar analysis.

The next was from Sudbury Hall and a piece I was working on about Kit Williams book, Masquerade. Kit, like Longfellow, had a seemingly "inspired moment" and captured ideas they should not have known about.

The next is from Goetia the Lessor Key of Solomon if memory serves.

The next is very old from Gobekli Tepe. I think it was 8000 - 9000 BC. I'd have to look.

The next you know.

The last has been called the 10 letter code.

There are anomalies that pop up within the framework of the last - oh - 450 or so years.

This is my personal favorite from the Voynich manuscript. Although there is a dating argument surfacing data puts it around the early to mid 1600s. Spiral galaxies would not be known about for about another couple of centuries. According to an analysis I had done on that 10 years ago, the yellow line marks our place in the galaxy, with the understanding this is a drawing and not an exact scientific plotting.

If we add one idea to that, the circle represents our trip around the galaxy - who knew THAT one?




There were people in charge of this information that popped up just after Nostradamus, who I have proven is more than people think he is. It SEEMS they were absorbed into the expanding occult groups back then because there is no trace of them today, and the so-called powers that be today know just a little too much - which then brings more into focus the 911 tragedy. http://onlychild.b0x.com/

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PostSubject: Re: Most Contactees are simply Cowards!   Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:49 am

Wow you two get a room! Or a drink! LOL just joshing with you J and Only.. =)

Only your making me feel bad just for being 35 man. Like I really needed anymore of that. Got enough on my own dude. Look at the young like the GRUNGE movement right? If it weren't for the Grunge movement in music. Rock and Roll wouldn't have been transformed into flannel wearing hippies mosh pitting each other and blowing their brains out.. Good or bad for Rock and Roll? You decide.. got Alice in Chains out of it and some great bands that now have slivered and died and yet still live on as legends.

Everyone has a piece of the puzzle. I do think humor is a great thing when used properly and intelligently. Which I will do sometimes and sometimes I will not.. I do think the title of this thread was good old fashioned Alice Cooper Shock Rock and it's definitely doing it's intended job friends and fiends.


I just know I have had UFO experiences and I don't care who believes me. If you do cool! I have family and friends who have witnessed them with me as well. If someone doesn't believe I'll just talk to them about it or the other 1000s I know. I am a UFO attractor of sorts after beating cancer and my father's death. Shortly I built my website and now I am interviewing people I would have never dreamed of interviewing there ever in my entire life! =) Which leads me to believe that I am doing something right and that this is about raising awareness in hopes of knocking down the wall of lies that has been constructed by those in charge. Which makes me believe that is why I have had these sightings to begin with. To awaken as a messenger for the cause! So riding the ancient snake to the ancient lake like Mr. Morrison says.. Follow your weird! Because you never know where it will take you..


Only I am not sure what your so pissed at or bitter about. Well if you are may you heal if you aren't then hell I am! =) Some symbol you say? Well tale us the tell of this Important symbol. Heck better yet I'll interview you about it at my place if you want.. Drop me a line if you do sometime. If not that's cool but thought I would offer in hopes of attempted Shamanism.

Young folks or old folks we all still got a soul yolk. It's just are we going to make greasy fried eggs or scrambled eggs with cheese? Speaking of which I got some swine in my fridge haven't had bacon in a long time. About to fry up some for me and my dog Jack and some eggs with cheese.. Slurp.

Take care and watch out for those Satanic Groundhogs today they'll drag you down to the Underworld and eat your spleen man!
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