http://www.blogtalkradio.com/paratopia/2012/05/28/paratopia-live

Jeff Ritzmann is on vacation. Mercifully, four people call in to make one helluva roundtable discussion, including Roejen & Lobo from Project Archivist!

This one covers a number of the deeper questions about the paranormal, indigenous mind, Western mind, so-called "aliens," evolution, what reality is, how we perceive each other as well as this phenomena. You name it, we covered it--including Hawaiian paranormal activity, personal experiences of the guests, and Jer's admission that he doesn't see himself podcasting beyond this year.