Following on the heels of NARCAP Executive Director Ted Roe's assessment of David Jacobs' need to exit the field, Nancy Birnes seconds the notion in a big way....
Paratopia Episode 162: Nancy Birnes Strikes Back
Nancy Birnes comes out swinging against the latest shady David Jacobs hypnosis tapes. Then she fields some tough questions from The Jer. Finally, she... takes over the show? Yes, that's right, Nancy Birnes confiscates the show and interviews Jeff about his life as an experiencer. This is one heck of an interesting episode and it is an extended one. Our longest show yet, clocking in at just over 3 hours!