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PostSubject: Season 4? Yes?   Sat May 23, 2009 11:53 am

The guys have wrapped principle -- or is it principal? -- filming. There are some fun shots of ATV shenanigans on the blog under "UFO Hunting Ground."

Meanwhile, rumors are rife that there won't be a Season 4, but I'm not feeling it. If I know anything for sure, I'll be sure to tell you here, but for now ... things are playing out in a weird way.

For one thing: I'm suddenly getting a lot of Google notices with bad reviews of the show. Why is this strange? Well, for starters, these reviews sound like they've just discovered the show. All of a sudden? Odd. It's been around for a while.

In fact, the pros and cons have already lined up and their blog reviews have been consistent for going on a year now ... but then suddenly, a bunch of similar-sounding bad reviews. Raises a red flag. Feels like a concerted effort to ... do ... ?

Have they gotten too close? Doubtful. Is it a budget negotiaion played out on the big stage? Maybe. Is there another show to take its place? We'll know soon enough, if that's the case.

Should we start writing to the network asking for more episodes? I, for one, would want the real UFO investigators -- and we know who they are -- to have more say. I mean it. New episodes, sure; but let's get real.

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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Sat May 23, 2009 6:42 pm

Hi NB. Very Happy Thank you for pointing at Ann Druffel's work (I caught her on Tim Binnall).

As long as the filming was "principled"... I'm sure the broadcasts will benefit and I do enjoy the benefit of those productions and efforts. Very Happy I'd feel a "vacuum" of sorts if there were no Season 4 on some broadcast medium.

The TV-biz is a weird and convoluted "play" at times with much of the best oratory and theater acted out by "legalistas", "bean-counters" and the ever-present yet quixotically ephemeral "this week's latest network whiz-children" and executives of little-good repute behind the scenes-shot; "real-shooting". Pressure during a negotiation focuses the best and worst in human nature upon "the bargain" and sometimes the paperwork even supports "all sides" while offering an uneasy and tenuous "truce" during the term of obligation. People-tech.

It would be my wish that "real" of which you speak were more in the fore too. I also hope things work out well for a fourth season on HC... but if were to play out that it did not then there might be an opportunity to do something similar and perhaps more rewarding elsewhere. Very Happy

I can think of only one other interest that "fits" as another show to "take it's place" - not-saying-who or what concern that might be but it would fit the biz-ethos often negatively-associated with that group's "core actors" in other media by word of mouth. I would view this or an association with such a group negatively and should HC choose to "trade-down" to such a group passing up the opportunity to "grow" The UFO Hunters then I'd likely not be supportive. Too, there very well could be others of which I am unaware concerning their distribution "shopping" activities. Production capacity surplus is at a high and fat tax-breaks are being subsidized to "help" during this economic downturn. Very Happy

If the "real" goes elsewhere? I'd follow and choose to support those who'd sponsor that.

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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Sun May 24, 2009 12:13 am

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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Sun May 24, 2009 12:27 am

Hi Fix!

You must be in the biz -- you know whereof you speak!

If we take away the whole business aspect of this thing, we are left with why any of us are in this field in the first place, and I'll bet it's because there's something drawing us in, calling to our instincts, luring us to go on and on and try to figure out exactly what is behind the curtain.

The whole Hollywood thing, although helpful -- don't think I'm not grateful cause it's keeping the venerable magazine alive -- but still, it's not the reason we're doing this.

Most of us would continue if we were living under a railroad trestle in a refrigerator box. It's still the Big Story. Will the network continue to film it? We'll see.

But we will fight for it.

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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Sun May 24, 2009 1:58 am

Number 37'. Four "more" years please. Very Happy

I've watched TV production "eat" friend's lives and they don't even watch TV. I'm a big fan of those new-fangled multi-platform vertically integrated models of monetization and done "well" it could allow freedoms that other methods may not - and as often the converse is just as true. I hope things wrap for this season with everyone friends and happily looking-forward after some rest. I am sure there are at least some well-meaning "TV-people". I've never actively participated in any television related endeavors. Very Happy I just watch sometimes.

Yes. Looking. Searching. Seeking. It doesn't "go away". We "know" it's there behind the curtain-drawn and well-worth the fight - please "take a swing" for me. Very Happy I've found my life at times a bit "complicated" by opinions I hold but don't exactly feel "free" to share without reservations in the company of "all" professionally nor personally. What can one do? Like Dylan sings,"You gotta serve somebody." There are just too many "little things" that only add up if you use the correct and "Good Housekeeping" approved decoder ring of the monolithic status-quo - to not notice with approval, serves notice.

I still "look" anyway; once "you know", you know, y'know? It seems well worth pursuing even if only "quietly". We're here, they're there and here and who is or isn't "theirs" or "ours"? Leaves the notion of "who" we are in some state of doubt and uncertainty. Many share similar if not identical views and one day some bright young network exec with a future will figure out the loyalty and brand consciousness that can offer an advertiser and tap a production company favorably on the shoulder. Very Happy

Oh my! Film it? Under a trestle? In a packing crate? Very Happy Now don't go giving those network execs any ideas NB. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Sun May 24, 2009 3:32 pm

Hi Nancy! The correct word is principle, as Principal Skinner is unavailable.

I hope there is a fourth season, or at least a UFO Files type show to showcase older cases and bring the newer ones to light. The History Channel did show seasons two and three back to back, so they may want to take a breather between seasons three and four.

I will sign the petition for another season, but I would think the ratings are good for the show by and of itself. However, the industry is quite strange so anything can happen.

Keep us informed of any developments, although I would not expect to see any new season start until 2010.

Goddess bless,

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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Sun May 24, 2009 11:21 pm

I *thought* it might be principle, and then I made the mistake of looking both of them up. Again. Gah. Some days you make your own work.

And you are oh, so right about Seasons 2 and 3 getting mashed together. At the very least, there has to be a longer break so that proper prep can be done. But then, again -- who knows.

Bill is home now and will be on George Knapp's Coast episode later tonight, Sunday night. He's going to speak his mind, he says.

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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Sun May 24, 2009 11:32 pm

I'm poppin' corn!

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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Mon May 25, 2009 9:34 am

Just to recap what was said last night, Bill said that there is no official word yet, and most likely will not be until after the last episode airs.

This does not instill me with much confidence, knowing how finicky Executives can be. And History Channel has a bad history of killing good shows in their prime. I don't mean to darken anyone's doorstep here, I just don't put that much faith in how TV works.
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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Mon May 25, 2009 4:59 pm

I've been in touch with Nancy and we're going to be working up some cards that you can print out and send into the History Channel. Snail mail has a way of getting their attention when their office gets flooded with cards letting them know how much you want to keep the show around. Will update more when things get rolling.
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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Mon May 25, 2009 5:46 pm

It is hard to tell what a cable network will do, but they are quite different than broadcast networks. Programs like UFO Hunters are not to difficult to make, although there is a log of logistics involved. There are no movie stars and personalities to deal with, and that can be quite expensive. The show may not get renewed until this fall, as season three would have premiered at that time.

I have signed the petition, and would send in some cards asking for the show to be renewed. Does anyone know how many viewers the show gets each week?
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PostSubject: re: Season 4? Yes?   Mon May 25, 2009 8:27 pm

hallo! are there accompanying articles/blogs to the series episodes? i'm a new viewer and am sad that i might only have my series one dvds from the library to watch till fall... which i think is too late for the gang to wait for word on whether they'll get to do another season. does anyone know if it is the channel or production company that is holding up the decision-making? if the history channel cancels the show, can they take it to a different network?

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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Mon May 25, 2009 9:37 pm

kidflash2008 wrote:

I have signed the petition, and would send in some cards asking for the show to be renewed. Does anyone know how many viewers the show gets each week?

I signed the petition only a few hours ago and the count has more than tripled since I signed it, so the word is getting out.

I'm going to start working on the cards tonight and hopefully will have something to post sometime tomorrow evening. alien
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PostSubject: re: Season 4? Yes?   Mon May 25, 2009 9:45 pm

Cindy wrote:
kidflash2008 wrote:

I have signed the petition, and would send in some cards asking for the show to be renewed. Does anyone know how many viewers the show gets each week?

I signed the petition only a few hours ago and the count has more than tripled since I signed it, so the word is getting out.

I'm going to start working on the cards tonight and hopefully will have something to post sometime tomorrow evening. alien

not a member there, but at the history channel's forum, there was a different online petition campaign going on... perhaps someone should post this one there, too, along with the link to the a&e corporate programming email form.
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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Mon May 25, 2009 9:55 pm

Nancy has supplied me with the address of the Head of the Progaming department, I'll be posting that with cards as soon as they're done.
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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Mon May 25, 2009 10:01 pm

it might also be a good idea to ask the producer over at C2C to have George make a mention or 2 about the petition too. That program has more listeners than most other CC shows from what I've heard
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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Thu May 28, 2009 3:55 pm

i forgot to mention before, that we prolly should have added a section to the petition to state how many other people we watch the show with! most of the people i know watch with a bunch of friends, or family! it's not just one person that should be counted per sig, it should be one sofa's-worth! study
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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Thu May 28, 2009 7:01 pm

A good idea of whether the show will be renewed is the ratings it has. I have checked the Nielsen site and they only post the top ten shows of which UFO Hunters is not in. The bottom show was viewed by over three million viewers, so UFO Hunters can still be quite high in viewership.
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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Thu May 28, 2009 7:18 pm

Whatever the ratings are I wonder if they take in to account people that watch the replay later at night? Hunters was up against Lost for most of the season and Lost is a very popular show. I assume others are like me and watched Lost and then the replay of Hunters.
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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Thu May 28, 2009 7:32 pm

They measure Tivo, college dorms and all types of shows. The numbers may not be included in what they release to the public, but sponsors are very aware of who watches what program. That is the more important aspect to the ratings as they pay for the programming.
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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:58 pm

hi guys cheers well i hope there is a new run next season.
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PostSubject: Stumbled upon this UFO Hunters petition video   Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:57 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:16 am

My family was on the last show that has yet to be aired. It involved alot of very strange happenings that we and many others had witnessed. Twenty days after the shooting our home as well as our neighbors home when up in flames. The cause is still under investigation. He was out of state at the time and his car a 2005 just started on fire and took both houses. The last time I spoke to the show was to give permission to add this information at the end of the show. Since that time, total silence and it looks like the show is not going to air in final show. I just sent an email to Bill and am waiting a response.
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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:00 pm

is this the MIB episode? the one w/ the only photo of a mib agent? from what i read on the HC board.....
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PostSubject: Re: Season 4? Yes?   Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:36 am

I really don't know if it was the MIB show since it hasn't been aired yet. The last four show were to be on military presents with UFO's. Our filming was on 5/6 and was to be the last show. Since the filming the military presents here has left but the sky's remain full of odd actiity. To date the investigation into the cause of the fire is still ongoing.
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