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PostSubject: Sceptic attacks on witness credibility   Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:33 am

I find it interesting how hostile sceptics attack part of the UFO problem, claiming to have destroyed its credibility totally as a subject but when you look at the whole set of experiences people go through, joining the dots of their answers, you find that there is not one, single cohesive answer for all the various fragments they claim to have made sense of - no holistic theory everything, to explain the different facets of the phenomena: If you say that you've been contacted telepathically, you are called a fantasist. If you see bedroom visitors, you are told that this is hypnogogic imagery, produced by the brain because you are half asleep and still dreaming, despite also having daylight visions, when fully conscious. When UFO abductions were first talked of, scoffers said that there was no proof that they had anything to do with UFOs. All in all they try to isolate events, destroy the credibility of the witness, create doubt in them that they ever experienced anything and try to destroy their morale through attacks aimed at isolating them from anybody else that might believe them/ befriend them (Division and conquest). These people are not trying to get at the truth or understand the events but bury them and silence witnesses. Their reactions show that they are scared of the phenomena as anyone brave enough to face it, would have the pro-life attitude of live and let live but this is psychic assassination of witnesses, through trying to destroy their standing in society and their own confidence in themselves and what they have witnessed first hand, rather than attacked with second hand arguments: Witnesses know whether they are lying or not - outside parties can only guess (as in courtroom cases and the accused).
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PostSubject: Re: Sceptic attacks on witness credibility   Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:08 pm

Ahh people - what a concept.

Could the Milky Way be rippling with life and intelligence? Worlds calling out to one another, while we on Earth are alive at the critical moment when we first decide to listen. …
But our fear of the dark rebels. The idea of alien beings troubles us. We conjure up objections. …
Even after we are grown, the darkness retains its power to frighten us, and so there are those who say we should not inquire too closely into who else might be living in that darkness. Better not to know, they say.

Quotes from Carl Sagan

The bottom line is what YOU think based on YOUR own data. If I worried about what "others" had to say I would have given this up years ago. I have my proof, I have my data (and not one logical counter argument) ... if people don't want to hear it, well, remember the Clovis culture
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PostSubject: Re: Sceptic attacks on witness credibility   Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:25 am

onlychild wrote:
Ahh people - what a concept.

Could the Milky Way be rippling with life and intelligence? Worlds calling out to one another, while we on Earth are alive at the critical moment when we first decide to listen. …
But our fear of the dark rebels. The idea of alien beings troubles us. We conjure up objections. …
Even after we are grown, the darkness retains its power to frighten us, and so there are those who say we should not inquire too closely into who else might be living in that darkness. Better not to know, they say.

Quotes from Carl Sagan

The bottom line is what YOU think based on YOUR own data. If I worried about what "others" had to say I would have given this up years ago. I have my proof, I have my data (and not one logical counter argument) ... if people don't want to hear it, well, remember the Clovis culture

God not you again! Are we the only two posters on this site? It was the rebuff to my Eureka moment that threw me. Afterwards I realized what was happening and counterattacked with logic (knowing). Carl Sagan was right. That fear of the dark is really fear of death (their own/ this society as their power base - 'You can't take it with you - then I'm not going!' attitude). Once you understand, it becomes easy to forgive their cowardice (I'm an outsider (just like the aliens) trying to get in and they are trying to defend their castle of ignorance, by keeping us out). I like to hear counter arguments, so I can demolish their logic or lack of it - verbal or physical abuse is something else.
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PostSubject: Re: Sceptic attacks on witness credibility   Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:45 am

paigetheoracle wrote:

God not you again! Are we the only two posters on this site?

I'm used to it ... this one of two possible outcomes. Either quiet overtakes the board and maybe one or two people post, or the naysayers gang up and play dog pile on the rabbit. Groupthink - what a concept.


It was the rebuff to my Eureka moment that threw me. Afterwards I realized what was happening and counterattacked with logic (knowing). Carl Sagan was right. That fear of the dark is really fear of death (their own/ this society as their power base - 'You can't take it with you - then I'm not going!' attitude). Once you understand, it becomes easy to forgive their cowardice (I'm an outsider (just like the aliens) trying to get in and they are trying to defend their castle of ignorance, by keeping us out). I like to hear counter arguments, so I can demolish their logic or lack of it - verbal or physical abuse is something else.

It's all the brain. When people understand what's 'under the hood' they will be better able to deal with this subject (and everything else).
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