Rhesus Negative

Something that I've noticed crops up a lot with alien abductees and possible human/alien hybrids is the Rhesus Negative issue. Essentially, irrespective of whether your individual blood group is A, B, AB or O, the plasma membranes of most people’s red blood cells carry the series of antigens that categorise them as being Rhesus Positive. Those people without this factor are categorised as being Rhesus Negative. Several abduction researchers have commented on the apparently higher proportion of Rhesus Negative people among abductees than in the population as a whole. However, it's not clear whether this is just anecdotal, or whether there's any scientific evidence to back it up. It's also not clear to what extent those who categorise themselves as hybrids, starseeds, indigoes, etc, agree with what the researchers are saying. But in a field where sceptics are often critical, it strikes me that this is an example of something that could be easily tested and might lead to the community being taken more seriously and getting more support.
I would be interested in hearing people's views on this.

I'm part Vulcan. I'm just kidding, of course. I really have no idea how to answer you. Are there people who actually research this stuff?

O.C.,
That tell you that either They are/or not doing a good job of research. If they did find any thing would they make it public.
NOT. I do not subscribe to the thinking that all goverment agencys are involved. Quite the contrary. If you listen they have admited repetedly that they have seen things. What they have not admited to is having any knowledge of any recovered wrecks or nonnitrogenous
personnel.
I would put forth this thought for your consideration. Most if not all government entities are incapable of holding secrets of any kind.
Add to that All and I repeat All D.O.D. contractors are willing to sell thier own mother if it means increasing thier profits by a penny.
Given the number of employees and Military personnel involved some one would have talked. Imagin if you would some mid-level
exec comming home one evening......... Hi! Honey I'm home and I brought GORT with me for dinner!
Or some poor enlisted smuck down at Joe's pool hall. Give me another beer and one for my buddy knzxxxxxx.
See my point. Keeping a secret for fifty years (10,000 maybe?) is next to impossible.
Bieng in contact with a higher form of life? Not any of the politicians I know.

O.C.,
my point was that the ufo researchers either got what they got or they still don't have a clue. Knowing goverment as I do, I don't think they have diddle squat. In fact I'm sure mufon is light years ahead.
I have a theroy that the govment researchers have thier heads stuck in the sand/rectum like the proverbial ostrich. I believe that if an alien bothered them they would shew it away. Thats what all goverment employees do. Imagin giving wackenhut security permission to shoot trespassers in area 51. Try researching the Wackenhut security company and see what you get. Old ties dating from WWII.
The shuck and give for 2012 is based on very old data. Who says the interpreter of that data got the time frame right?
What happens is we get the old gigo. Garbage in=garbage out, You are a tremendous researcher, but all of your data comes from some place else. One that the rest of us don't have. I can and do except your statments as bieng as fact based as possible.
On the other hand (after viet nam) I don't believe any thing the goverment says or does. If the govement says the world is going to end tomorrow then the odds are it will be either the day before or the day after, if ever.
What I do know for a fact, is that from time to time I have seen things that should not have been there doing what ever it is that they do
( I like the HI! we're here.).

Davefair

davefair wrote:

O.C.,
my point was that the ufo researchers either got what they got or they still don't have a clue.

I get it - but my concern is people and the fact that the people need to be told more than "I saw a light in the sky" / "I had a scary dream" / "my blood's better than you blood".

Unfortunately, people (for the most part) don't want to deal with the reality of this subject, because no one (for the most part) takes in data that goes beyond the light in the sky / scary dream scenario. This is all brain function ... from beginning to end ... and it's an epic failure.

If you can't explain a theory to a child, as Einstein said, your theory is probably worthless. This "theory" is simple:
1) ET does NOT arrive unless there is a major problem coming.
2) We lost this information beginning back 5300 years ago.
3) ET has been here since at least the 1930s.
4) People + =

Oh well.

OK! O.C.,
I do take your points all four of them. Yes I do agree with you. Most particularly the fourth one. People do not want to hear one thru three it makes them nervous and requires them to think. I don't know who said it but I love to quote it." All it takes for evil to win is to have good people to stand around and do nothing."
People are not aware that they have lost any thing. There are realy only a very few that have any intrest in the past. In fact as new knowledge is pushed forth so fast now that it provides information overload.When you have overload the brain shuts down. Ergo the dumming down of America. If you teach nothing but how to take a test how then can you teach the 3 Rs. Only the very brightest progress and then only in one or at best two fields.
That you were singled out to have been given puzzles to solve is of course unique. That by it's nature indicates that you have the ability to reason out the puzzles. The solutions are best left simple. You taught me that by telling me the truth. Hi! Here we are! Then you guided me to look into the past to project the futhur. That I already knew, though I had never applied it that way. Now I have a half of a terrabyte of digital shows dealing with the subject. Here is the difficulty with what they show. All of the data that they provide is theroy. There is no hard evidence avaible to be interpreted. Theroy in this case is a series of educated quess. I can not interpret the mayan calender as I have no bases to do so. My lack of knowledge is evident. Your guidence has been very much appreciated. I am still pondering what you have given me. Like an old dog with a bone I will keep at it.

Dave( )fair

O.C.
I have a thought for you to ponder. It in it's way follow what you just stated. Bare with me to the end?
As a Lad I saw my first one, Just my grand mother and I walking on a concourse. True there were thousands of people who saw it independent of us. Later there was the incident at the foot balls stadium, this time too it was a mass sighting.
Later I saw a scifi move called forbiden planet. The jest of the movie was to show that all inteligent biengs had an animal mind burried inside called the id. The id was capable of preforming mass murders. That an entire alien race had killed them selves off with the accomplishment thought=power. Then of course the good doctor managed to prove that the power was to much for mankind to have. (as an aside I have the film on my hard drive, it came with the computer).
As time passed my intrest in scienefiction grew as the films and shows progressed. Oddly enough the films and shows still dealt with aliens of various kinds and our interaction with them. Star trek, babylon five, the space oddesy 2001. The star gate series.
Good aliens and bad. Avatar is one of my favorites, My grandaughter noted that the story line was the same as disneys pocahontis.
Sure enough it does.

It occured to me that in the course of years and the development of the shows/movies that there appeared to be a conseted effort to make humanity start to except aliens as bieng real. Even the vaticant(sp) has come out with the possibility.
Yet you and I know they are real with out the movies. Could it be that we are bieng hand carried down the garden path to accept them when they do arrive? The film and tv industrys have a long history of cooperation.
So ponder that for a while and let me know what you think.

dave(the dunder head)fair

onlychild wrote:

davefair wrote:

Could it be that we are bieng hand carried down the garden path to accept them when they do arrive? The film and tv industrys have a long history of cooperation.
So ponder that for a while and let me know what you think.

I think if we were being "hand carried" - the plots would be better. I don't see anything here but writers taking advantage of the triune brain, and presenting pictures based on mid-brain emotion (the ET movie) and r-complex fear (Spielberg's new Falling Skies tv show on TNT). If they were trying to "make humanity start to except aliens as being real" they left out one important piece - the reality behind it.

If we add to this the stupid "alien research" shows that are tossed at us continually, the picture gets even worse. How many times can you approach a subject the exact same way it failed before, and expect different results? (And no, that is not the definition of insanity, that is the admittance you have no clue what you are doing and that you have nothing left to work with - so let's do it again - ONE MORE TIME.)

The audience, who is not used to thinking on their own, hence they plop themselves down in front of the tv to "learn" ... from people who have no idea what they are doing ... walk away in the same state they were in before they sat down - but they keep coming back, hoping that something will change - AND IT NEVER DOES!

All that is going here is a case of the blind leading the blind ... and we all know what happens at the end of THAT story.

Well that is in it's way the whole point. Lets say for a moment that there are aliens and like here on earth, there are both good and bad aliens. Lets say we have a generation (ours) who have seen or had occurance of some thing out of the ordinary.
Our generation gets all of the base stuff stuffed down our throat repetitively. It's not new it just presented in a diffrent way.The primary way beat us down with what if/or. There are some new shows out there by the "new" generation. They take the same information and examine it in a new way. I call it gonzo. Hey now I watch a show that captures a ufo out in the desert sky.
Well we all know that, so whats new. They got it on tape. So we know the new generation is more thane a little intrested in this "stuff". The what if/or is in force for them. Mean while the clock ticks down. The riots and unrest continue thruout the world.
The solar flares increase, the seismic activity continues. You see a count down. I see a break down. The masonic stones may well be right. You and I will not know untill december the 22 of next year (if there is one)
At my age the odds are that if something does occur I will be in bed and asleep when it does. Either way doesnt matter.
As long as I am with my family.
The new generation is better prepared for what ever occurs. The already believe in aliens either way. I am betting that they can and will deal with it. If they come and say time to go something bad is about to happen. The kids most likely will load up and leave.
If you read the stones they are a definate day after thing.

Dave(darn head ache)fair