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PostSubject: The Universe   Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:29 pm

The Universe
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The universe is nothing like scientists, your scientists, think it is. It operates nothing like scientists think it does.

That appears to be a bold statement, and why would we present an alternative view of the universe in this manner?

Well, the why of this, is our concern, not yours. And the fact that the universe differs greatly from nearly all of the traditional views of it, is what we are here to discuss, at this point in time.

Remember, not long ago the earth was thought to be flat – laughable now, perhaps, but that was indeed the case. So perhaps you will view our discussion here, of the universe and its sister universe as laughable – but nevertheless, this is our contention.

The Purpose of the Universe

Prior to discussing, in general terms, the universe, as we would like to present it to you, one first needs to understand that the universe has a purpose, in and of itself.

The universe has a purpose.

All things exist with a purpose to them – as do you, of course.

You may not know or understand YOUR purpose, but nevertheless it exists.

You see, we are all about information. And information that has been acquired, integrated and utilized (in real, and practical terms) is enlightenment. So one could say, we are all about enlightenment.

Who are we?

Call us what you choose (we say this sincerely) – we have faith in you. That is to say, that we believe you are (or will be) smart enough to understand that names are for children. For those among you concerned more about knowing where we come from or who are ancestors were, so that everything else gets left behind. What gets left behind? The underlying message. It gets left behind because humans prefer to build legends and have stories filled with ancestral antidotes, so forth and so on, so as to amuse themselves with such information, and argue about it endlessly.

But this has a way of diverting any message in a way that shifts the focus from the message to the messenger, and we believe you are smart enough to see that, to understand that and realize that creatures of a higher order can and often do call themselves by names simply to amuse you or as a way to spice up or even dumb down the message, as the case may be, as they see fit.

You are smarter than that, aren’t you?

So call us whatever you see fit to call us – but hear the message first and decide for yourselves whether or not to entertain this information, letting go of the concept of belief, for the time being. Instead recognizing within you, whether or not this information ‘resonates well within you’. If it does resonate well within you, entertain it – if it doesn’t, then don’t – it was not meant for you.

Contrary to what some may think, all information is NOT for everyone. Some information is for some, and other information is for others.

One cannot possibly house (or entertain) all of the information that is available – but rather, only that information which registers or resonates well within one.

So then, what is the purpose of YOUR universe?

Simply put, to add stability to your sister universe. In much the same manner, much the same way, that the moon adds stability to the earth.

You see, even though the moon adds stability to the earth, it does so being much smaller than the earth. Likewise, your universe is much small than its sister universe, but its purpose, the purpose of your universe, is to stabilize or add stability to its big sister.

Now, your sister universe is much larger than your own, but the two are seen, currently, as one complete universe. That is not the case. Your universe is much smaller and exists primarily, but not solely, to add stability to its larger sister.

For this discussion, let’s call your universe B and its larger sister A.

In terms of creation, A was created first, and then B was positioned on top of, within, A.

Neither universes are flat, of course, but imagine that B is a smaller circle inside of a bigger circle A, that was placed there after the bigger circle A was created.

Rotation has little to do with it, in general terms, but the two do not rotate uniformly. A rotates much faster, and B much slower.

This is important because their rotations are based upon frequencies being generated within each universe. These frequencies are the guiding frequencies of the universe, if you will, in that each universe requires a timing mechanism of sorts.

Is any of this related to the ‘Big Bang’?

Absolutely not. The Big Bang theory tantamount to calling an automobile the multiple encapsulated explosions theory.

How is that?

Because, simply put, there is so much more involved within this physical entity we call the universe – be it A or B, or both.

Henceforth, we shall refer to your universe as The Sisters – because by so naming it this way, we are constantly reminding you of the two, very distinct parts, which make up the whole. And it would be somewhat misleading to apply a singular name in this instance.

The Sisters

So then, now we can discuss your universe, The Sisters, in a way that is more correct conceptually, than we could prior to us giving you this analogy.

The Sisters exist as one, but are two distinctly different creatures. Yes, they are creatures in that they are both alive – hence the name The Sisters.

The Sister are alive, as is the earth. The earth is alive, and so too your solar system, as is the galaxy as are The Sisters.

Life comes in many forms – you will know this in greater depth, so enough.

Now we know that you can imagine this universe called B, as a smaller creature within a larger one, A, so as to add stability to both, so that both are more stabile; The Sisters.

This concept is true on much grander scales, as well.

So if the purpose of B is to add more stability to A so that both become more stabile, what then is the purpose of both A and B referred to herein as The Sisters?

The Sister exist as a canvas for those that would paint; as clay for those that would sculpt or as wood for the carpenter.

But in this case, the painter did NOT create the canvas – it was created for him, by those knowing full well that if the canvases were created, painters would appear, and create as is their nature.

Creation is part and parcel of what The Sisters are all about.

A medium with which to create.

All of the raw materials exist within The Sisters, to create all that is or all that ever will be.


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PostSubject: Re: The Universe   Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:38 pm

Hello John,

I understand everything here. It's a little like Pierre Teilhard de Chardin's concept of the living Earth but not entirely. I understand that as well. It all sort of fits with my own philosophy in that generally we are here to be joyous. That would encompass creativity by default. And while I arrived at this through listening and experience it does not include, and is not precluded by, a point in your message. My own point being:

I can in no way agree that the Moon stabilizes the Earth by any stretch. I would not consider the analogy pertinent to the A/B Universe concept. But it's only a small point.
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PostSubject: Re: The Universe   Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:28 pm

glider wrote:
Hello John,

I understand everything here. It's a little like Pierre Teilhard de Chardin's concept of the living Earth but not entirely. I understand that as well. It all sort of fits with my own philosophy in that generally we are here to be joyous. That would encompass creativity by default. And while I arrived at this through listening and experience it does not include, and is not precluded by, a point in your message. My own point being:

I can in no way agree that the Moon stabilizes the Earth by any stretch. I would not consider the analogy pertinent to the A/B Universe concept. But it's only a small point.

Hi glider,

I know nothing about astrophysics; I wonder if the statement about the Moon stabilizing the Earth is a valid one?

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PostSubject: Re: The Universe   Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:42 pm

Hello John,

I don't think astrophysics has much to do with it IMHO other than it's a category of science. But, intuitively speaking, Venus has no moons nor does Mercury and they appear fairly stable. So perhaps the stabilization of the Earth has a differrent criteria such as it may help to promote a diversity of environment. Seems logical.
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PostSubject: Re: The Universe   Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:56 pm

[quote="John Hughes"]The Universe
Channeled Apr 8th, 2011


The universe is nothing like scientists, your scientists, think it is. It operates nothing like scientists think it does.

That appears to be a bold statement, and why would we present an alternative view of the universe in this manner?

Well, the why of this, is our concern, not yours. And the fact that the universe differs greatly from nearly all of the traditional views of it, is what we are here to discuss, at this point in time.

Remember, not long ago the earth was thought to be flat – laughable now, perhaps, but that was indeed the case. So perhaps you will view our discussion here, of the universe and its sister universe as laughable – but nevertheless, this is our contention.

The Purpose of the Universe

Prior to discussing, in general terms, the universe, as we would like to present it to you, one first needs to understand that the universe has a purpose, in and of itself.

The universe has a purpose.

All things exist with a purpose to them – as do you, of course.

You may not know or understand YOUR purpose, but nevertheless it exists.

You see, we are all about information. And information that has been acquired, integrated and utilized (in real, and practical terms) is enlightenment. So one could say, we are all about enlightenment.

Who are we?

Call us what you choose (we say this sincerely) – we have faith in you. That is to say, that we believe you are (or will be) smart enough to understand that names are for children. For those among you concerned more about knowing where we come from or who are ancestors were, so that everything else gets left behind. What gets left behind? The underlying message. It gets left behind because humans prefer to build legends and have stories filled with ancestral antidotes, so forth and so on, so as to amuse themselves with such information, and argue about it endlessly.

But this has a way of diverting any message in a way that shifts the focus from the message to the messenger, and we believe you are smart enough to see that, to understand that and realize that creatures of a higher order can and often do call themselves by names simply to amuse you or as a way to spice up or even dumb down the message, as the case may be, as they see fit.

You are smarter than that, aren’t you?

So call us whatever you see fit to call us – but hear the message first and decide for yourselves whether or not to entertain this information, letting go of the concept of belief, for the time being. Instead recognizing within you, whether or not this information ‘resonates well within you’. If it does resonate well within you, entertain it – if it doesn’t, then don’t – it was not meant for you.

Contrary to what some may think, all information is NOT for everyone. Some information is for some, and other information is for others.

One cannot possibly house (or entertain) all of the information that is available – but rather, only that information which registers or resonates well within one.

So then, what is the purpose of YOUR universe?

Simply put, to add stability to your sister universe. In much the same manner, much the same way, that the moon adds stability to the earth.

You see, even though the moon adds stability to the earth, it does so being much smaller than the earth. Likewise, your universe is much small than its sister universe, but its purpose, the purpose of your universe, is to stabilize or add stability to its big sister.

Now, your sister universe is much larger than your own, but the two are seen, currently, as one complete universe. That is not the case. Your universe is much smaller and exists primarily, but not solely, to add stability to its larger sister.

For this discussion, let’s call your universe B and its larger sister A.

In terms of creation, A was created first, and then B was positioned on top of, within, A.

Neither universes are flat, of course, but imagine that B is a smaller circle inside of a bigger circle A, that was placed there after the bigger circle A was created.

Rotation has little to do with it, in general terms, but the two do not rotate uniformly. A rotates much faster, and B much slower.

This is important because their rotations are based upon frequencies being generated within each universe. These frequencies are the guiding frequencies of the universe, if you will, in that each universe requires a timing mechanism of sorts.

Is any of this related to the ‘Big Bang’?

Absolutely not. The Big Bang theory tantamount to calling an automobile the multiple encapsulated explosions theory.

How is that?

Because, simply put, there is so much more involved within this physical entity we call the universe – be it A or B, or both.

Henceforth, we shall refer to your universe as The Sisters – because by so naming it this way, we are constantly reminding you of the two, very distinct parts, which make up the whole. And it would be somewhat misleading to apply a singular name in this instance.

The Sisters

So then, now we can discuss your universe, The Sisters, in a way that is more correct conceptually, than we could prior to us giving you this analogy.

The Sisters exist as one, but are two distinctly different creatures. Yes, they are creatures in that they are both alive – hence the name The Sisters.

The Sister are alive, as is the earth. The earth is alive, and so too your solar system, as is the galaxy as are The Sisters.

Life comes in many forms – you will know this in greater depth, so enough.

Now we know that you can imagine this universe called B, as a smaller creature within a larger one, A, so as to add stability to both, so that both are more stabile; The Sisters.

This concept is true on much grander scales, as well.

So if the purpose of B is to add more stability to A so that both become more stabile, what then is the purpose of both A and B referred to herein as The Sisters?

The Sister exist as a canvas for those that would paint; as clay for those that would sculpt or as wood for the carpenter.

But in this case, the painter did NOT create the canvas – it was created for him, by those knowing full well that if the canvases were created, painters would appear, and create as is their nature.

Creation is part and parcel of what The Sisters are all about.

A medium with which to create.

All of the raw materials exist within The Sisters, to create all that is or all that ever will be.


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Mike Good wrote:
John Hughes wrote:
No disrespect intended, but I don't believe in channeling. There must be some other explanation, or cause and effect here.

How can you say for certain that it all comes from who you say it does, geez.

How can you say it doesn't? The saw cuts both ways.

Somebody, I can't remember who (Crowley?) said that spirits are notorious liars. So, just like science (steeped in subjectivity) it can't be completely trusted. You just have to take it for what it is and leave behind what doesn't suit you.

But just remember, the beliefs you choose, either through your personal belief or those acquired through your culture, are not a measure of truth, but only a measure of belief.

The truth, whatever that may be, is another thing altogether. albino

Not trying to start an agrument, as I'm the new guy here, ha ha, but if it was true, we'd all be doing it, right. You can believe in this fringe stuff if you like, no skin off my nose. I just think is nonsensical mumbo jumbo bring out ther Weegie Board stuff, but that's me. I don't mean to condemn this guy but geez. What happened to good old common sense.

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PostSubject: Re: The Universe   Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:11 pm

glider wrote:
Hello John,

I don't think astrophysics has much to do with it IMHO other than it's a category of science. But, intuitively speaking, Venus has no moons nor does Mercury and they appear fairly stable. So perhaps the stabilization of the Earth has a differrent criteria such as it may help to promote a diversity of environment. Seems logical.

Astrophysics has everything to do with it.

as·tro·phys·ics/ˌastrōˈfiziks/
Noun: The branch of astronomy concerned with the physical nature of celestial bodies, and the application of the laws of physics to astronomical observations



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PostSubject: Re: The Universe   Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:31 pm

Hello John,

Saying that the Moon adds stability to the Earth is most assuredly NOT an astrophysical statement; it is an artifact of perspective. It is an opinion, not a scientific fact. Sorry. Nowhere does it say that the Moon does anything but DE-STABILIZE the Earth. Entropy. Science.
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PostSubject: Re: The Universe   Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:00 pm

Some folks can't let facts or truth get in the way of... a not so good story. Either that or the entities he's channeling are real dumb asses. Or.....Maybe he's channeling their asses....OK I'm out of possibilities. Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: The Universe   Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:40 pm

glider wrote:
Hello John,

Saying that the Moon adds stability to the Earth is most assuredly NOT an astrophysical statement; it is an artifact of perspective. It is an opinion, not a scientific fact. Sorry. Nowhere does it say that the Moon does anything but DE-STABILIZE the Earth. Entropy. Science.

""It is an opinion, not a scientific fact""

""Nowhere does it say that the Moon does anything but DE-STABILIZE the Earth""

glider,

The scientific community says (and has said for a long time now) that the moon does indeed stabilize the Earth's orbit - here are two well known, mainstream, scientific sources (one of which is NASA - see below) that contradict your assertion that the Moon acts to "DE-STABILIZE" the Earth.

I find it puzzling why you would engage me, or anyone, in a discussion about which you know nothing?

This is elementary, and easily verifiable, science, certainly - therefore, I see no further point to discuss this matter with you.

That notwithstanding, I have provided you with LINKS on this matter, in the event you wish to learn.


Cheers
John Hughes


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The Moon has been a stabilizing factor for the axis of rotation of the Earth. If you look at Mars, for instance, that planet has wobbled quite dramatically on its axis over time due to the gravitational influence of all the other planets in the solar system. Because of this obliquity change, the ice that is now at the poles on Mars would sometimes drift to the equator. But the Earth’s moon has helped stabilize our planet so that its axis of rotation stays in the same direction. For this reason, we had much less climatic change than if the Earth had been alone. And this has changed the way life evolved on Earth, allowing for the emergence of more complex multi-cellular organisms compared to a planet where drastic climatic change would allow only small, robust organisms to survive.

http://www.astrobio.net/index.php?option=com_retrospection&task=detail&id=2507


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Stabilization of the Earth's obliquity by the Moon
J. LASKAR, F. JOUTEL & P. ROBUTEL
Astronomie et Systèmes Dynamiques, Bureau des Longitudes, 77 Avenue Denfert-Rochereau, F75014 Paris, France

ACCORDING to Milankovitch theory1,2, the ice ages are related to variations of insolation in northern latitudes resulting from changes in the Earth's orbital and orientation parameters (precession, eccentricity and obliquity). Here we investigate the stability of the Earth's orientation for all possible values of the initial obliquity, by integrating the equations of precession of the Earth. We find a large chaotic zone which extends from 60° to 90° in obliquity. In its present state, the Earth avoids this chaotic zone and its obliquity is essentially stable, exhibiting only small variations of 1.3° around the mean value of 23.3°. But if the Moon were not present, the torque exerted on the Earth would be smaller, and the chaotic zone would then extend from nearly 0° up to about 85°. Thus, had the planet not acquired the Moon, large variations in obliquity resulting from its chaotic behaviour might have driven dramatic changes in climate. In this sense one might consider the Moon to act as a potential climate regulator for the Earth.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v361/n6413/abs/361615a0.html



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PostSubject: Re: The Universe   Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:29 pm

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The universe is nothing like scientists, your scientists, think it is. It operates nothing like scientists think it does.

LOL! Google expert!...........Master channeler!

It all depends on what your definition of stable is.

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The Moon affects the liquid envelope of the Earth, and the oceanic tides in particular. The Moon affects the ocean tides more in some areas than others. For instance, in the channel between the British Isles and the European continent, the tidal range can be 10 meters, compared to what you see in the Pacific, where it is below a meter.

The crust of the Earth is also affected. The Moon’s tidal forcing causes significant heating and dissipation of energy to take place. Part of this energy is heating the Earth, and part of it is dissipated by forcing the Moon to recede from the Earth over time. There are people who propose that the tidal effect of the Moon may have helped trigger the convection on the Earth that led to the multi-plate tectonics. The other planets don’t have the same tectonic cycle. For most of them, the crust is like a lid that doesn’t move much horizontally, and the magma and heat are blocked by this lid on the surface. The Earth instead has rolling convective motion that drags the crust, and then the crust plunges back down into the mantle and gets recycled.

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PostSubject: Re: The Universe   Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:42 pm

Hello John Hughes,

Yep, I read your links. The one stating changes in precession, eccentricity, and obliquity, and the other saying Mars wobbles and ends up with ice all over the place really convince me. A one to two mile thick layer of glacier ice over Manhatten convinces me. Numerous ice ages and gosh, even the recent earthquakes in Sumatra, Haiti, and Japan even convince me of the stability of the Earth. NOT. The Moon has changed it's proximity over the eons from a 50,000 to an over 245,000 mile radius from us. And it will continue until it no longer is our companion at all.

A 23.5 degree tilt is the ONLY thing stable. Nothing else is. Is that what you are trying to say? Something about the tilt? I hope so 'cause nothing else is even close.
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