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davefair CE 4

Number of posts: 455 Age: 67 Location: Tampa, Flordia Registration date: 2010-04-09
 | |  | | Ragdoll73 Seeker

Number of posts: 31 Age: 39 Location: NM Registration date: 2011-01-07
 | Subject: Re: Discernment Towards All Denizens of the Cosmos or Will You Burn Them? Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:38 am | |
| | davefair wrote: | | onlychild wrote: | | Ragdoll73 wrote: | I was wondering... If we look to the METAPHOR underlying everything, are we destined to find The Truth, no matter how convoluted and twisted our written history has been made? This is so difficult to put into words! Metaphor defeats lies. Somebody help me out here; I see the picture but I can't find the language. |
As far as THIS particular picture (ET) goes - no. Why? The core data has been removed and so interpretation is impossible. If we reinsert the core data, then yes - interpretation is possible.
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ragdoll, that truth is the simplist thing but so often overlooked because of that. I was looking for a straight forward fact. O.C. pointed the "fact" out to me and I was agaist. Surely there had to be more and there is so much more that the fact gets lost in it. Use the razor and strip away the rest. Davefair |
UNLESS we are referring to an absolute metaphor. Other names are paralogical metaphor and antimetaphor.
http://changingminds.org/techniques/language/metaphor/absolute_metaphor.htm Description An absolute metaphor is one where there is absolutely no connection between the subject and the metaphor. Example I am the dog end of every day.
That is worth less than a dead digeridoo.
We faced a scallywag of tasks.
Discussion In a non-absolute metaphor, the basic idea and the metaphor have some resemblance, for example using 'box' as a metaphor for 'house' or 'tube' for 'train'. A value of an absolute metaphor is in the way that it can confuse and hence make people think hard about the meaning of something. We seek always to find some meaning and hence some learning may arise. Absolute metaphors are also useful when you are at a loss for words. They can thus communicate frustration, confusion and uncertainty. The absolute metaphor is also known as a paralogical metaphor or antimetaphor.
Jesus frequently spoke using paralogical metaphors. It was a way to ensure that his message survived, even though the powers that be would attempt to erase the truth behind his words. Even though variables may change, the equation is still there. This is soooo important!
Has anyone seen the Star Trek episode "I, Mudd"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I,_Mudd
Ezekiel 12:2 2Son of man, thou dwellest in the midst of a rebellious house, which have eyes to see, and see not; they have ears to hear, and hear not: for they are a rebellious house.
Ephesians 6:12 12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 115:4-8 4Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands. 5They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not: 6They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not: 7They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat. 8They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them. Here I go again thinking too much. It's my nature. Grrrrrrr! My head hurts. I know we are experiencing a pole shift in the near future, etc. But it's probably even more simple than that. Bio-mechanical entities invading Planet Earth? Planet X? Nuclear war? Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream? |
|  | | onlychild Keyholder for Area 51

Number of posts: 1012 Age: 63 Location: Texas Registration date: 2009-10-15
 | Subject: Re: Discernment Towards All Denizens of the Cosmos or Will You Burn Them? Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:03 am | |
| | Ragdoll73 wrote: | UNLESS we are referring to an absolute metaphor. Other names are paralogical metaphor and antimetaphor. |
Keep it simple ...
40,000 years ago language was nowhere near what it is today. They couldn't do what I am doing now, taking "words" and build an explanation (left hemisphere of the brain).
Sooo ... they took a visual approach (a picture is worth a thousand words - right hemisphere of the brain) to the idea of "life" (woman - who creates new life) - who was ALWAYS represented as ridiculously obese (to match the archetypal picture of the nebula - until the story was rewritten and she became thin / more "normal" looking).
Just like today where we have visual icons of Jesus - the mental connection to the story we have had pressed into our heads is instantaneous. There is a connection to salvation from something that paints a picture of the end of the world. We can further "explain" that the later story of Jesus is nothing more than this original story of the woman / salvation from destruction, because the further you go back in time, the "son" vanishes from the story, as does her mate / husband / sperm donor, however the birth of the dying god is explained.
Simplicity before complexity. |
|  | | Ragdoll73 Seeker

Number of posts: 31 Age: 39 Location: NM Registration date: 2011-01-07
 | Subject: Re: Discernment Towards All Denizens of the Cosmos or Will You Burn Them? Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:14 am | |
| "...the birth of the dying god is explained." I'm trying really, really hard. But, I'm probably trying TOO hard! OC, would you mind giving me another hint? Pretty please. I can't figure out whether I'm actually starting to figure this out, or if I'm backpedaling. 40,000 years ago... appearance of modern human? Neanderthal wiped out? Something to do with the Earth's relation to the Sun?
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|  | | Ragdoll73 Seeker

Number of posts: 31 Age: 39 Location: NM Registration date: 2011-01-07
 | Subject: Re: Discernment Towards All Denizens of the Cosmos or Will You Burn Them? Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:26 am | |
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|  | | onlychild Keyholder for Area 51

Number of posts: 1012 Age: 63 Location: Texas Registration date: 2009-10-15
 | Subject: Re: Discernment Towards All Denizens of the Cosmos or Will You Burn Them? Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:49 am | |
| | Ragdoll73 wrote: | "...the birth of the dying god is explained." I'm trying really, really hard. But, I'm probably trying TOO hard!
Relax lol - it took me 37 years to do this with no help from anyone, including our friends upstairs 
OC, would you mind giving me another hint? Pretty please. I can't figure out whether I'm actually starting to figure this out, or if I'm backpedaling. 40,000 years ago... appearance of modern human? Neanderthal wiped out? Something to do with the Earth's relation to the Sun?
According to what I have looked at, we either began a relationship with ET regarding help during BIG destruction events and the impact on our lives around 40,000 BC, or, this was a continuation of a relationship that had failed somewhere between 200,000 and 700,000 years ago. These larger numbers are connected to the two oldest goddess carvings found. The base idea is, that if there is a destructive event, or maybe more than one destructive event - ET shows up to help. It also seems, if you reject the help - you are on your own.
We held this idea all the way to around 3300 or so BC, when there was a minor event, that led to confusion regarding just how "minor" this was and whether ET should be showing up ... they didn't show up because there was no need to.
In one spot on the globe, the people in pre-Sumer and then pre-Egypt completely lost it. The picture is sort of akin to getting down on your knees and pleading DON'T KILL US!!! Religion was born, new doctrines were written, and our "agreement" was tossed in the trash can because it was deemed wrong.
This error has continued from that time all the way down to us today, ET has shown up, been in our faces since 1942 (as far as I am concerned - the Battle of LA) and we have been in a mental battle since that time trying to figure out what the hell is going on. On top of this, it seems the powers that be know what is going on (were either told, or, figured it out) and they refuse to tell us anything.
That's about as simply as I can put it - does it help?
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|  | | davefair CE 4

Number of posts: 455 Age: 67 Location: Tampa, Flordia Registration date: 2010-04-09
 | Subject: Re: Discernment Towards All Denizens of the Cosmos or Will You Burn Them? Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:14 pm | |
| Ragdoll, I liked your research and will take some time to digest it. Mummble mummble, let out the clutch,aww rats I always have trouble getting the old model t brain in gear these days. What O.C. Did was cut thru with the razor and find the simple truth. Then , thank god, he told me what it was. Then I ran in a bunch of small circles going, Naw it can't be that simple. But ya know what, it is that simple. The scarey part was I had run over it quite a number of times and just didn't see it. I gave myself a huge "DUH" for having missed it. It's like Jack or glider gathering up new information. It's there but I didn't find it they did. By the way young lady I like your picture. She was quite a gal in her time. I actually saw the movie on turner. Those old silent flicks are a blast. I watch them with my grand son. He calls it ancient history. I never figured on getting this old. Surprise here I am.
dave(the ignorant)fair |
|  | | glider CE 4
Number of posts: 420 Registration date: 2010-10-19
 | Subject: Re: Discernment Towards All Denizens of the Cosmos or Will You Burn Them? Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:54 pm | |
| Hello Dave Fair,
Aw shucks Dave, I didn't find nuthin'..........YET! Still kicking the dirt around in the wings though. |
|  | | Ragdoll73 Seeker

Number of posts: 31 Age: 39 Location: NM Registration date: 2011-01-07
 | Subject: Re: Discernment Towards All Denizens of the Cosmos or Will You Burn Them? Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:23 am | |
| Thank you, Dave! I sure wish I had more time to sit down at the computer and talk. This has been one of those busy weeks! I got to drive my dad's backhoe, which was fun. It took me a while to figure out the controls, probably because I was trying too hard. When it comes to heavy equipment, the directions can be all mixed up. Left can be right, forward can be down (or is it up?), etc. When I finally stopped trying to map it all out, and just DID it, everything fell into place. I dug a big hole and filled it up. What a blast! Plus, I learned a new heavy equipment metaphor! lol
OC, just one question... Is the big destructive event something which WE cause or something which naturally occurs? |
|  | | onlychild Keyholder for Area 51

Number of posts: 1012 Age: 63 Location: Texas Registration date: 2009-10-15
 | Subject: Re: Discernment Towards All Denizens of the Cosmos or Will You Burn Them? Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:02 am | |
| | Ragdoll73 wrote: | OC, just one question... Is the big destructive event something which WE cause or something which naturally occurs? |
There is NO data on what is coming, all I can say is IT is coming. This goes back to 2006 when I was taught the hard way WHY we shouldn't jump to conclusions - I fell flat on my face with that one.
Believe me when I tell you I went over this final event in my life more times than you can imagine, looking at it from every possible direction, including psychosis, because I have NEVER in my life "heard a voice" as I slept - that woke me up.
As far as what I heard, and what WE are supposed to do: 1) IT is coming. 2) Take all of your beliefs, put them in a pile in front of you, and back away.
Evidently, we need to stop thinking that we can figure all of this out, and just shut up. Whatever is coming, and however this will work out, is NOT in line with what we think.
I find it odd that it took a year and half for anything to begin again in my life (maybe they wanted to see if I would sit quietly lol), and when it did, the lessons on the goddess symbol began. It took another 3 years to put it all together and finalize it in my head, following the exact same "follow the bouncing ball of clues" I have known all my life.
All I can say is that SOMETHING is coming ... and if we were supposed to know the details - we would - but we don't, and "they" aren't saying anything. Whatever it is, and however this is going to work out, whenever it happens, we just need to trust them - and that works for me 
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|  | | Ragdoll73 Seeker

Number of posts: 31 Age: 39 Location: NM Registration date: 2011-01-07
 | Subject: Re: Discernment Towards All Denizens of the Cosmos or Will You Burn Them? Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:23 pm | |
| My brain is going 2 melt. About 7 years ago, I noticed a light in the Eastern sky. It is not Venus and it is not Mercury. According to Google Sky, it is somewhere around where Sirius should be, but a little lower. I have THE WORST sense of direction of anyone EVER, so if I am mistaken please tell me & my feelings will not be hurt. Every year it gets brighter, and I believe it moves. I do have cataracts at 37 years old, as well as nearsightedness, and occasional elevated ocular pressure. When I get my eye surgery later in the year, perhaps I will see things differently. Some people notice the "star" and others do not. Why is that? I am not a goofball. I saw it on the West Coast, my friend and I saw it in Dallas and Arkansas, and I see it in New Mexico. There is one guy on youtube who sees it too, and lots of people made fun of him. Because much of the world is under a spell or hypnotized. The darn light is up there and it never was before. No matter what season, it always follows the same path. And if it IS a planet in our solar system, I find it highly disturbing that the thing is so bright. |
|  | | onlychild Keyholder for Area 51

Number of posts: 1012 Age: 63 Location: Texas Registration date: 2009-10-15
 | |  | | Ragdoll73 Seeker

Number of posts: 31 Age: 39 Location: NM Registration date: 2011-01-07
 | Subject: Re: Discernment Towards All Denizens of the Cosmos or Will You Burn Them? Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:46 am | |
| It's always up there, like a big eye. Probably just a planet. :-) Or the death star. lol More than likely Google Sky needs to be calibrated again. |
|  | | Vortexasylum CE 1

Number of posts: 193 Location: Here at the moment Registration date: 2010-11-21
 | Subject: Re: Discernment Towards All Denizens of the Cosmos or Will You Burn Them? Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:28 am | |
| | Ragdoll73 wrote: | It's always up there, like a big eye. Probably just a planet. :-) Or the death star. lol More than likely Google Sky needs to be calibrated again. |
I do believe what you have been seeing is Venus. In the AM. eastern sky slightly to the south. White light. It is very bright and I don't know if it is just me being more aware or maybe the atmosphere is amplifying it. With our collective science up there spreading around silver/aluminum and who knows what else to increase the albedo of the atmosphere, we may be seeing this in a different light so to speak. It does seem to me to "twinkle" if you will, quite a bit and I also can see flashes of color. A couple of weeks past I saw it with my unaided eye the whole day as our blue marble rolled east, so that is bright. I have also noticed the moon looking orange more often these days and I attribute this to the same grand experiment. |
|  | | onlychild Keyholder for Area 51

Number of posts: 1012 Age: 63 Location: Texas Registration date: 2009-10-15
 | Subject: Re: Discernment Towards All Denizens of the Cosmos or Will You Burn Them? Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:11 pm | |
| This was the article I mentioned ... I can't say anything about it, it's outside of what I know  http://www.enterprisemission.com/_articles/05-14-2004_Interplanetary_Part_1/Interplanetary_1.htm Sun: More activity since 1940 than in previous 1150 years, combined Mercury: Unexpected polar ice discovered, along with a surprisingly strong intrinsic magnetic field … for a supposedly “dead” planet Venus: 2500% increase in auroral brightness, and substantive global atmospheric changes in less than 30 years Earth: Substantial and obvious world-wide weather and geophysical changes Mars: “Global Warming,” huge storms, disappearance of polar icecaps Jupiter: Over 200% increase in brightness of surrounding plasma clouds Saturn: Major decrease in equatorial jet stream velocities in only ~20 years, accompanied by surprising surge of X-rays from equator Uranus: “Really big, big changes” in brightness, increased global cloud activity Neptune: 40% increase in atmospheric brightness Pluto: 300% increase in atmospheric pressure, even as Pluto recedes farther from the Sun None of these statistics are from “fringe” scientists; they are all very, very real, and what you have just read is only the proverbial “tip of the iceberg.” |
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