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glider CE 4
Number of posts: 420 Registration date: 2010-10-19
 | Subject: Black Triangles Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:25 pm | |
| Hello All,
This begins the search delving into the nature of the triangular-shaped UFO's. The criteria for this topic will center around the various aspects of witnessed events, mostly from MUFON but also to include sighting reports from NUFORC and other entities. Along the way I will continue to include videos of other types of crafts just to break up the tedium but the focus is to be primarily on the deltas.
I will follow this post shortly with a list of details concerning these objects so some discussion could be generated. Not just wild speculations but more of a scientific investigation. There are other more in depth investigations going on by some really serious organizations who have their own ideas and as I look further into that I will be able to support or deny anything I or any member may come up with.
There are some extremely interesting viewpoints that will have good bearing on this subject just so you know this is not the only place this particular aspect of ufology is going to go under the microscope. I do honestly feel that with the increase of these craft sightings since 1980 and especially since 1990 that a very large piece of the puzzle is right in front of our noses. |
|  | | glider CE 4
Number of posts: 420 Registration date: 2010-10-19
 | Subject: Re: Black Triangles Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:25 pm | |
| Hello All, Okay, let's crank 'er up. First off I will always try to give credit where credit is due. This is not all me, just some things I've managed to put together as an overview so please keep in mind that these results come from witness descriptions. I personally have never seen one so I can be as impartial as all get out. I'll start off with a list of conclusions WRT Black Triangle characteristics: 1) They're cruisers, typically floating along at slow speeds. They are however capable of incredible accelerations. Especially it would appear, when being approached by fighter jets. These jets have been seen on the chase in a number of accounts. 2) They are large. Some estimates range from 200'-300'. Other accounts place them at between 1/2 and 1 mile long. 3) Rarely do they make any sound at all. Occasionally a hum at best. 4) They, for the most part are low flyers- 50' to 500' , sometimes landing, sometimes hovering, and sometimes they remain stationary and slowly rotate. In one instance one rotated toward an observer who had flashed his headlights, which I thought was verry interesting indeed! But they also have been seen at greater altitudes as well. 5) Flying at night for the most part kinda splits this fact into several components: a) They are observed to block out stars and even on dark nights they can be seen (I'll get into that later). b) they can appear transparent with stars and even the moon shining through an apparent invisible body. c) when unlit one observer noticed "dark semi-circles" where maybe lights were off or lit objects were missing. 6) Regarding lights most have one at each point on the triangle on the underside. These are mostly white but the cooler colors of yellow, orange and red have also been witnessed. There is typically one at center-craft that is most often red. Other objects are lit along the entire edge on at least two sides. 7) Lights have been seen coming and going from the triangle. I need to look into this aspect further or, maybe some one else (any takers?).  Even though the majority are night-sightings these objects appear to be confident enough to fly low and slow even in the daytime and some photos are truly compelling. So time of day probably doesn't matter although daytime sightings do seem less frequent. And lastly, 9) They have have been, over time, seen most around the more populated areas, large cities and also along major highways. And.............that's it for now. |
|  | | onlychild Crashed at Roswell

Number of posts: 997 Age: 62 Location: Texas Registration date: 2009-10-15
 | Subject: Re: Black Triangles Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:51 am | |
| | glider wrote: | I have stated before that there, in the black triangles, lies the key.
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OK, I'm not going to speak for everyone, just for myself. What "KEY" are you talking about? In order to apply the scientific method to a project, one needs a project; one needs a hypothesis to explore. Frankly, I'm at a loss here - what's the hypothesis?
In other words, I have speculated that there ARE different ETs with different agendas (working cooperatively to avoid conflict), and that our world is in for a "problem" and humanity will be divided up according to intelligence. I could say that the triangular craft, based on pictures unverified that I have seen, represent the highest order and show themselves symbolically as triangles linked to the symbol involved. At this point it would be up to me to prove that, and there is no way it can be done.
On top of this fact, balls of light UFOs have referenced our symbol. In this pic from a video I have, the V formation should be directly under the moon, and it would depend on your location whether or not it was. I have not adjusted this particular picture to show the representation as it should be seen. The only reason I don't believe this was hoaxed, are the two dots that appear over the top of this formation. The entire picture would be a view looking down from space, behind this picture.

The video is here - let me know if there's a problem seeing it: http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s254/ghost306_photos/?action=view¤t=UFO_triangle.mp4
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|  | | glider CE 4
Number of posts: 420 Registration date: 2010-10-19
 | Subject: Re: Black Triangles Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:15 pm | |
| Hello only child,
ANALOGY:
I'm a police chief. I'm looking over REPORTS that have come in from my subordinates. They had been in the field interviewing witnesses who said they had seen a body. My subordinates didn't actually see the body themselves, didn't examinate it, didn't take it to a medical examiner to determine cause of death. As far as I knew there either 1) was a body, or 2) there wasn't. Now to have a hypothesis WRT cause of death I would have to take these steps: 1) ASSUME there was a body. 2) I would then develope a plan to prove there was a body. 3) Find it, see it for myself. 4) If it was discovered, it would then be a fact that, yes, there is a physical body.
NOW there is a PROJECT to work on.
Then, examine it to determine cause of death and scour the scene of discovery for clues to add to the case. The clues may or not mean anything depending on what an autopsy had to say was the cause of death. Once the autopsy is in, the various clues from the scene can be summed in and ONLY THEN, after combining the data, maybe one could come up with a HYPOTHESIS of what MIGHT have happened. From there it can be determined what direction the investigation will take in order to gain enough facts to present a THEORY about what actually happened.
At this juncture I only have REPORTS of BTs. Hardly far enough along in the process to develope a hypothesis. Even if I had an hypothesis it would be split in two: 1) ETs are here for our good and 2) they are not. ASSUMING that BTs exist, as I said before, is the criteria necessary to warrant the effort.
If it's my speculations that you are after then okay, here they are:
1) BTs are support vessels. 2) They supply fuel/recharging needs. 3) They are the guardians of ETs presence. 4) They transport smaller crafts to different locales for study and observation and to detect threats in the area. 5) Jets seen going in a BTs direction are NOT escorts. And, thanks to your posted video: 6) I also speculate that the smaller object do not form "V"s. They dock by attaching themselves to the underside of a larger vessel that IS in the shape of a "V" or triangle if you will. The video, to me, clearly HINTS at this idea.
So as you can see, only child (perhaps you will even agree), there is much work to do to arrive at a hypothesis. By the same token, I have not read of any other UFO agencies developing any hypothesis yet themselves either. |
|  | | onlychild Crashed at Roswell

Number of posts: 997 Age: 62 Location: Texas Registration date: 2009-10-15
 | |  | | onlychild Crashed at Roswell

Number of posts: 997 Age: 62 Location: Texas Registration date: 2009-10-15
 | Subject: Re: Black Triangles Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:12 am | |
| OK, going along with the picture I know - "maybe" this is a direction, maybe a coincidence.
If we take the picture I just posted above, and we use the time (which would be approximate), date, and coordinates, and look to the horizon, oddly Orion is rising and the nebula area is about at the horizon. Again the time I would see as approximate. This may not mean anything to you, but it does to me.
I replaced the pic with the address cuz the pic was too big. Let me know if you have a problem seeing it.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s254/ghost306_photos/triangles3.jpg |
|  | | glider CE 4
Number of posts: 420 Registration date: 2010-10-19
 | Subject: Re: Black Triangles Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:05 pm | |
| Hello only child,
Thank you for the tip. Good stuff really. I'm going to keep this thread going. You can bet on it. I think there is enough here already, including the BT"s general characteristics in my second post, to at least open up a member dialogue. I think starting off with the first two general observations would be a good beginning. I absolutely DO want member input and ideas. I'm going to be giving myself what amounts to a crash course by wading through this:
http://dbarkertv.com/fthistory.htm
Probably not a bad idea for anyone who wants to pursue this topic to do the same so that any comments or input will have a source of reference. I'm starting on the article and all it's links in short order. My short range goal in doing so is to bring in all the minor points that have been reported in, say, one or two accounts that do not appear in the general witness descriptions. For example, anything about a particular sighting that is of the smallest, most insignificant detail that can be added to the picture as a whole to help fine tune the definition of a BT and it's purpose here.
I know history is a good teacher if one pays attention and can access the information. But this look into Black Triangles is an attempt to suss out their specific mission or duties. And I still believe defining their roll in the overall UFO picture is a crucial step to determining why ANY UFO, not just those types, would be here at all!
Any subsequent posts by me, I hope, will be not just going around again and again on what's already in this thread but will, with any success at all, bring in more data to add to the mix.
In the meantime, it is of exteme importance to NOT overlook the obvious. Like WHY the triangular shape? WHY flat profiles? WHY rotate while hovering. Believe it or not, these are examples of the basic hard questions to work on right away that could serve to clarify the direction this narrowed (BT) inquiry might take to help focus in on the goal of what they are about. |
|  | | onlychild Crashed at Roswell

Number of posts: 997 Age: 62 Location: Texas Registration date: 2009-10-15
 | Subject: Re: Black Triangles Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:15 pm | |
| Here's one for you. According to the time and coordinates, Orion again over the eastern horizon. The time 22:15 is when this person spotted it, so the picture (as close as one can get) is in the ball park. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330563/Dudley-Dorito-UFO-spotted-UK-skies-time-3-years.html
You might want to look through these as well. Rense search.
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=black+triangle&sa=Search&domains=rense.com&sitesearch=rense.com |
|  | | onlychild Crashed at Roswell

Number of posts: 997 Age: 62 Location: Texas Registration date: 2009-10-15
 | Subject: Re: Black Triangles Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:27 am | |
| Cognitive Dissonance is the feeling of uncomfortable tension which comes from holding two conflicting thoughts in the mind at the same time. |
|  | | glider CE 4
Number of posts: 420 Registration date: 2010-10-19
 | Subject: Re: Black Triangles Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:03 pm | |
| Hello only child,
I like the fisherman. |
|  | | onlychild Crashed at Roswell

Number of posts: 997 Age: 62 Location: Texas Registration date: 2009-10-15
 | Subject: Re: Black Triangles Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:40 pm | |
| | glider wrote: | | I like the fisherman. |
While grabbing for a second clip, I saw a hatch open up on the bottom side of the object and two people leaned down to yell, "STOP SHOOTING AT US YOU IDIOT."
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|  | | glider CE 4
Number of posts: 420 Registration date: 2010-10-19
 | Subject: Re: Black Triangles Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:02 am | |
| Hello only child,
Yeah, that's the one. Apparntly the only human on this entire planet who just happened to be armed at the time of a sighting. Gutsy move.
(Note to self: they don't shoot back!) |
|  | | onlychild Crashed at Roswell

Number of posts: 997 Age: 62 Location: Texas Registration date: 2009-10-15
 | Subject: Re: Black Triangles Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:07 am | |
| | glider wrote: | | (Note to self: they don't shoot back!) |
Note to self: It never happened. |
|  | | glider CE 4
Number of posts: 420 Registration date: 2010-10-19
 | Subject: Re: Black Triangles Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:57 pm | |
| Hello only child
Don't know. Wasn't there. |
|  | | onlychild Crashed at Roswell

Number of posts: 997 Age: 62 Location: Texas Registration date: 2009-10-15
 | Subject: Re: Black Triangles Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:35 pm | |
| Note to self: Regarding jokes, work on delivery. |
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