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PostSubject: on cnn today.?   Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:26 pm

just saw this today on a web page.Astronaut Edger Mitchell said today we are not alone.and the world government's are hiding the facts from us. now this maybe old news to you all. so forgive me if it is. Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: on cnn today.?   Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:02 am

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PostSubject: Re: on cnn today.?   Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:51 am

Thanks for posting that Lesley ...


O.K. , so now after reading the article I don't see anything new brought to the table by Mitchell , infact he destroys some myths out there about saucers and structures being on the moon , and also destroys the rumors of NASA and astronauts being aware of "bogies" or ufo's watching them during missions. Mitchell states there was never any mention of ufo's during his training, etc.

The most amazing info that comes out of Mitchell is not evidence of ufo/et's, he really offers no evidence, only his opinions...but whats amazing is the fact that he grew up in Roswell on a ranch not far from the crash site , and here he is years later becoming a mouthpiece for the "Religion is the problem , lets start worshipping the ET's" agenda.
it's a very strange coincidence to say the least ... any novice screenwriter would connect the dots easily and conclude that Mitchell is being used by ET's to advance their agenda, and may have been groomed since his childhood or prior to that. Its very strange that this man comes from Roswell and is now attempting to advance this anti-religion / pro-ET agenda, it absolutely plays right into the warning signs of a deception agenda, it raises all the red flags when an ET or in this case Mitchell, spends more time focusing his attack on religion than on any other topic of conversation about the ET presence, well then all you can do is shake your head and ask "why is attacking religion of such paramount importance to the ET ? " .... WHY ?

One would think that if the ET was so "concerned" about mankinds welfare, that they would not be loaning high-tech info and knowledge to advance the military weaponry of mankind, all of the supposed ET knowledge somehow ends up in the battlefield, advancing mankind towards the ffinal world war of armegeddon that the Bible warns of , where so many nations are armed with high tech weaponry and even nuclear and biological weapons as we now see.
So have the ET's been good stewards over this world so far ? If its true that they have helped our governments with technology and have been "overly interested" in nuclear bomb experiments as Mitchell contends, then it looks like they haven't done squat to steer mankind into a peaceful direction ... but we are to believe they will suddenly do an about-face and change their pattern now? now that the pieces are all in place for a war that can replicate the war prophesized about in the Bible ? It's just so coincidental that everything ends up supporting the Bibles warning of the end times and how the world will be deceived by satan and led into wars , famine and destruction. Most of all satan will attack religion, most likely out-lawing it and possibly killing anyone who believes ....whats scarey is how we're seeing this deseption agenda starting to reveal itself as the ET disclosure discussion becomes more clear... just look at Mitchells own words , not a word about evidence or solutions , mainly a focus on religion and why its to blame ! Not good.
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PostSubject: Re: on cnn today.?   Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:15 pm

Man i don't know what to think of him. scratch nasa sure can pickem. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: on cnn today.?   Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:06 am

It's totally ridiculous, he offers absolutely nothing in the way of "new proof" or "insider knowledge" , not even a speck of "whistle-blower info" , which means he doesn't know anything more than you or I , he's basically speculating. Thats OK to speculate, but one would think he would have even a tiny shred of a firsthand eyewitness account to support his opinion considering he was an astronaut and knows people who've worked on bases and inside the NASA agency , but he offers nothing , not even a story about someone else who may have told him they saw a recovered saucer or alien body. Its one heck of a cover-up when you can't even get a few eyewitnesses over the course of 60 years.

What set me off is that he doesn't talk about anything relevant to proving they are here, he instead focuses on why religion might be "a problem" ... well the problem isn't religion, the problem is religious people can't be deceived so easily, thats the problem. Religious people are going to weigh the message ... and if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...they're going to call it a duck. If the aliens message is one that attempts to do all the things the enemy of God would do , then they have to be looked at as the enemy of God. It sends up red flags when you hear nothing about the evidence of ufo's , but only how religion might get in the way of ET's plans, its a major red flag, not just to me, but to any impartial observer.

And please understand ... I was not the one who brought up religion in this one, Mitchell made it the focus of his message, which supports my argument that something very strange is going on in the ufo/et world. You have to be fair and ask yourself ...why would they be obsessed with worrying about steering mankind away from God .. and what difference should does it make to them if we believe in a God or not?? why can't they just be nice visitors and respect our choice of belief systems? unless they are in conflict with God, then it does make sense.
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PostSubject: Re: on cnn today.?   Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:29 am

Personally, I do not see religion as so much of a problem. I think most thinking people, even religious ones, could accept that God is a creator and that he/she/it created more than one race of beings. Some couldn't, but I think they would be fewer than some would think. That is what creators do -- they create. No artist stops with only one painting.

To my knowledge nowhere is the bible does it say that God only created beings on earth. Not that it would matter, the bible has a lot of things in it that are totally wrong. I think we sometimes forget that the bible was written by men and has many contradictions.

I don't get what the message that religious people aren't deceived by is? I have heard no message. I haven't even seen any evidence of a message. No ducks quacking that I know of.
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PostSubject: Re: on cnn today.?   Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:59 pm

Dr Mitchell has been repeating the same old thing for quite a while. He has never witnessed anything himself, and has not stated any names of people who told him what they saw. While it is interesting, I do wish he would start giving more information out, instead of the same old, same old every interview.

I do respect him for putting his reputation on the line for speaking open about the subject. I also wish more people would of paid attention to what the late Colonel Gordon Cooper had to say on the subject. I recommend his book "Leap of Faith" as it has his sightings in it and his thoughts on UFOs.
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PostSubject: Re: on cnn today.?   Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:51 pm

Lesley wrote:
Personally, I do not see religion as so much of a problem. I think most thinking people, even religious ones, could accept that God is a creator and that he/she/it created more than one race of beings. Some couldn't, but I think they would be fewer than some would think. That is what creators do -- they create. No artist stops with only one painting.

To my knowledge nowhere is the bible does it say that God only created beings on earth. Not that it would matter, the bible has a lot of things in it that are totally wrong. I think we sometimes forget that the bible was written by men and has many contradictions.

I don't get what the message that religious people aren't deceived by is? I have heard no message. I haven't even seen any evidence of a message. No ducks quacking that I know of.


Religious people are not the problem, I agree with you on that. Even if other life is discovered it wouldn't mean the christian belief system would then be proved wrong.
Look at the Vaticans statements acknowledging that there may indeed be flying saucers and ET's out there , they are keeping an open mind and saying they may even be "good" aliens, but they just don't know at this point, and this is my view too, we just don't know enough yet to make a determination about what their true agenda is. This is why I try and balance it all out by asking the "what if's" until we know for sure, instead of blindly making up my mind that "they must be good" with the little bit of evidence we have, which isn't much, its basically peoples stories of what they've been told by the ET's.

Another possibility is that there could be both good and bad ET's out there, again we do not yet have enough to go on to make a competent determination. All we can do at this point is weigh the "words" and "messages" that are supposedly being given to others by the ET's.

The reason I focus on deception is because according to the Bible that is exactly how satan will ultimately trick mankind into turning away from God, by deceiving them, not by openly revealing himself to mankind as satan, but coming as a wolf in sheeps clothing to gain control over mankind, by appearing as a savior to mankind in order to turn as many as he can away from christianity and to have them ultimately worship him as a "God".

The true believers and followers of Jesus will have their minds sealed and protected from falling for the deception the bible tells us, it says that if not for the shortening of those days even the strongest believers might have a hard time not caving in to the deception.

Satan will ultimately "mimic Jesus" , he will return to the earth from the skies above and in the clouds , performing miraculous wonders in front of mankind in order to convince them to "believe in him (satan)". His main message will be to turn away from your old belief systems and ultimately bow down and worship him. All of this is clearly written about in the bible. It doesn't explain how satan will try and pull this off, but it does make it clear that it will happen just prior to Christs return to earth. The Bible explains that true and faithful followers of Christ are given gifts of the Holy Spirit. Even though Jesus left the earth, the Holy Spirit was then brought in to help guide and protect the believers, and to help shield them from any deceptions. Its one of the benefits you receive in this life, a spiritual thing from the unseen, a gift not easily explained. Along the same lines as to why a believer has no problem understanding the bible and knowing in their hearts and minds that it is the Word of God ... yet a non-believer cannot comprehend why anyone would believe in such a book and can't begin to grasp why christians believe in such nonsense. Its a supernatural mystery...everything is not always in the flesh ...there is a spiritual warfare taking place right now for the souls of mankind, but none of us see it.

In the end we will see it , satan will reveal himself as the anti-christ and deceive many, anti-christ meaning he will appear like christ , most likely as a being who can perform wonderous signs and do amazing things in the eyes of mankind , most likely talking peace and nice flowery things in his initial introduction to mankind ... but his real intent is death and destruction ultimately.

So as a believer in Christ, I am blessed with the gifts of the Holy Spirit ... my mind is protected from deceptions and lies that are meant to lure believers away from God.
At this point I'm only asking questions .. I haven't made any determination about anything regarding UFO's and ET's ... I do understand that there could very well be "good" ET's out there , they may be angels for all we know. But I'm also cognizant of the fact that evil does exist out there too, and I tread carefully when I don't hear something in the ET's supposed message about the God of the Bible or Jesus Christ, or Good and Evil . This is what sends up the red flags , when I hear a message of "hey , its all good" , no ... it is not all good, there is an enemy out there that wants to lure your soul away from God, if you don't believe anything else ... at least try to believe that much.

So as I look into the fascinating field of UFOlogy I do so with an open mind geared towards "who are they, and what do they want" ... if the answer comes out that they are good beings and they hold no bad intents towards humans then fine, I'll be the first to buy them a beer talk about the universe. But if I get the sense that the message is an attempt to steer mankind away from beliving in God and the Savior of the world Jesus Christ, I will then be cautious and trust that the Holy Spirit will reveal the truth in my heart and mind.

I saw a UFO and recorded it on video, so I'm extremely interested in the field of ufology.
The strange thing about my video is that I didn't realize what I was recording when it happened. I was recording the sunset and caught all this ufo activity which I later discovered while reviewing the recording.
It was a beautiful sunset and the sun had disappeared belwo the horizon , the sky had some different colors of blue and orange with some light clouds whisping throughout. One set of cloud formations, dark colored clouds against the orange and blue background, appears as a giant face in the sky, an evil serpent looking face ... as if it's pressing in against a plastic bubble, looking down upon the earth ... it's very strange looking, creepy. And UFO's are seen all hiding inside the cloud cover elsewhere in the sky, their lights blinking as they hover stationary behind the light cloud cover. One dark-black object appears traveling across the screen in open skies...at first I thought it was a small plane, but there are no wings , just a blackish looking object with a strobe light. That object is then followed by an extremely large wobbling metallic silverish object , like a giant saucer wobbling along in the same path ...again there are no distinguishable wings on this object either.

I went back and puposely shot video of airliner jets passing thru the skies at the same location ... although they were all flying much higher than the objects on my video, they all had wings. Yes , even a jet flying at 30,000 feet up in the air clearly has wings when videotaped.

I've caught other strange things on tape from the same location. I wish I knew of a trustworthy video specialist who can use some high-tech equipment to analyze my footage.

I had sent a digital copy to NUFORC and its Director Peter Davenport kept it and refused to return it to me. When I called him he told me that it was "an airplane". I asked him which object was the airplane (there were several different objects) and he would only repeat "it was an airplane" in a stern voice ... i then said to him "oh, I didn't know we had airplanes with no wings ...did you see the big wobbling object? did you notice it had no wings?" ...
Thats when he said to me in a very mean stern way "do you understand what I'm telling you, its an airplane...DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING?" .... At that point it dawned on me that this guy could be working for the governement, a great cover for confiscating ufo photos and video , just set up the National UFO Reporting Center (NUFORC) and the people will come to you with their evidence instead of you having to track them down. I really got the feeling he was trying to give me a message of "I don't care whats on the video, the story now is that you filmed an airplane...understand??" It was definitely a "Men In Black" moment...I'll tell you that much. And when I asked him to send the video back he refused.
He didn't know that I had already had somebody freeze the video on the larger object and somehow download it into a picture form ... they then scanned it and enlarged it ... and of course its a metallic looking object with no wings whatsoever, but I didn't tell him I had already done that, nor did I tell him that I still had the original copy of the video.
It's very discouraging to think that the Director of a national ufo reporting center might be working to keep the cover-up in place. Thats a scarey thought.
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PostSubject: Re: on cnn today.?   Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:32 pm

very interesting , do you still have your copy.
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PostSubject: Re: on cnn today.?   Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:03 am

it was said if there wasn't some form of disclosure by today he would disclose some heavy information he knows. Anyone hear if he was killed in a tragic boating accident yet?
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PostSubject: Re: on cnn today.?   Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:09 pm

2009 - UFO X Conference National Press Club Release 04 20 2009 - Part 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10. I enjoy Edgar Mitchell's unique perspectives and like the fact that he (unlike some) does not over-reach his data-set.

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