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PostSubject: ~The Alien : Enhancing Universal Perspective   Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:04 am

Imagine a world where there is no death yet it remains dangerously over populated because they have extended their lives to new heights and bounds with evolutionary flares beyond the conundrum of man. There is no money. Only service in this world. Barter and trade and those who cannot survive either die or become part of the institution. Technology beyond your wildest dreams of UFOs and teleportation and over all they have found the holy grail and cheated life itself. But in doing so used up their resources and now they must find a new planet to get resources from and to colonize and there next stopping point would be Earth.

In this thread I want you to if possible respond with a situation revolving around Universal Awareness. Imagine yourself in the skin of the so called alien why would you come to Earth? What is going on in your society that would make you need to come here of all places? Tell me how you feel about alien worlds what would they be like? This is a place to ramble with the divine and madness underfoot about seeing out of the eyes of an Alien. Perhaps to let us under good reasoning to put together a grander picture.
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PostSubject: Re: ~The Alien : Enhancing Universal Perspective   Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:35 am

If you get to read any of my posts, you will see that I believe that we are on the brink of discovering that how we have let our society evolve has brought us to a crossroads so to speak. We will soon reach a point at which time we will no longer be able to function as a society because we have let greed fuel our reasoning for attainment. I believe that we should take a hard look at Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs Theory and make a transition plan to be able to provide basic needs for all life. We need to raise the bar well beyond where it sits now and understand that there is so much more that we can do and reach levels that will remove all of the barriers that hold us back.
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PostSubject: Yup   Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:48 am

Interesting Gort, I also think we are at a Crossroads, so to speak, and for whatever reasons, but the problem will be; how does Greed get eliminated? Human nature would have to be re-worked somehow? Not to say that that is impossible, just improbable for the majority. And barring any Armageddon type Event, the Rich will get richer, and the poor will starve quicker. It is a tragedy in the making, and one that we who are aware, are forced to watch without the ability to Scream:
"Wake up" .
thanks Gort, If you;re the same Gort from Casebook, and the whole Drone thread, its good to read what you share.
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PostSubject: Re: ~The Alien : Enhancing Universal Perspective   Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:56 am

Ufofiend wrote:
Imagine a world where there is no death yet it remains dangerously over populated because they have extended their lives to new heights and bounds with evolutionary flares beyond the conundrum of man. There is no money. Only service in this world. Barter and trade and those who cannot survive either die or become part of the institution. Technology beyond your wildest dreams of UFOs and teleportation and over all they have found the holy grail and cheated life itself. But in doing so used up their resources and now they must find a new planet to get resources from and to colonize and there next stopping point would be Earth.

In this thread I want you to if possible respond with a situation revolving around Universal Awareness. Imagine yourself in the skin of the so called alien why would you come to Earth? What is going on in your society that would make you need to come here of all places? Tell me how you feel about alien worlds what would they be like? This is a place to ramble with the divine and madness underfoot about seeing out of the eyes of an Alien. Perhaps to let us under good reasoning to put together a grander picture.


Hey UFOfiend,

Great idea for a thread!

But here's the thing: you are using anthropocentric ideas to inform the alien. Understandable, being human and all, but not terribly useful for gaining insight into that which is truly alien. Our typically Cartesian ideas are mostly misapprehensions of that nominal thing we call "reality".

The interesting thing to me, and it is one I harp on often, is that the ancient teachings of metaphysics and quantum physics align quite closely. But those Cartesian delusions will have to be forgotten if any insight is to be gained from this corroborated knowledge.

The first lesson in metaphysics and quantum physics is that "everything is one". At a basic subliminal level, there is no separation between any "thing" in the universe. All matter, life and possibilities arise from the unitary quantum matrix. Everything in the universe is intimately interconnected at a subtle (and thus, not obvious to us) level.

Whoops, there goes science with all of its delusional ideas about "objectivity". Sorry, no such thing. affraid

So, the first step in universal awareness is that we, all of us, are the universe and everything in it. You cannot, like a good Cartesian, isolate anything from the unitary whole and gain much understanding from such a mistaken enterprise. Everything is connected.

Aliens? They may not be like us, so much, but they are influenced by us as we are by them, even if we don't see them. There is that subtle connection. Think about it.

Were we created by them? Did they, in our distant past have some influence over our biological and social development, as so many traditions (even the corrupted bible) imply?

And what about us? If we were a creation of others, we are not doing so well. We have developed in a dis-eased way. We fight and bicker and kill each other as if the snuffing out of the precious universal gift of life were a mere trifle not worthy of our consideration. We are extremely fragmented and selfish and seemingly on a collision course with our own self-destruction because of that.

So, if everything is one, what does that say about selfishness? Selfishness is a failure to acknowledge the most basic metaphysical truth: that you are part and parcel of everything, including that which you disdain and despise or fail to consider at all. If you poke out the other guy's eye, it is an injury that you do to yourself. It will effect you on a spiritual level, for certain, and may end up effecting you on a physical level as well, if the other guy decides that an eye for an eye is a reasonable (if selfish) action to take.

Bummer dude. Suspect

So, if you are an alien fellow who understands this essential truth, you cannot look at our human folly with indifference. You MUST recognize that this viral contagion, called man, is kind of a festering wound in our little obscure corner of the universe. And if (yeah, its a big IF) you had a hand in our physical, or even only our social development, you must see that your little experiment has gone awry.

So, given this proposition, shouldn't you (as an alien) take a strong interest in we wayward humans on this obscure little planet?

I would think so.

What do you guys think?

Mike
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